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canaris
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 Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2014 6:26 pm Post subject: Semaphore! Advice please! |
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Bought this 1950 split and obviously previous owners welded the semaphore housings ! Going to do body work and get it back to original ! Would I need to buy semaphore housing (metal part of the post) to weld it in or could u just drill it and restore it? |
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mandraks
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seems like it would not be hard to find out?
seems like people sell those pillar pieces, somebody must need them...
At the same time, they might not have done much work to weld them up in the first place
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usariemen
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| Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2014 10:16 pm Post subject: Re: Semaphore! Advice please! |
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| canaris wrote: |
Bought this 1950 split and obviously previous owners welded the semaphore housings ! Going to do body work and get it back to original ! Would I need to buy semaphore housing (metal part of the post) to weld it in or could u just drill it and restore it? |
Grind off the paint and check what youŽll find.
With a bit of luck you just have to cut the hole to reopen them and beeing careful and with some cosmetic grinding you might get to a result that would work.
If they are "heavy" weld closed you might go better with a pair of donor openings from an other car.
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Martin Southwell
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Rather than grind anything first, try some paint remover, and other softer techniques initially, and as the person above says, see what you find. I've done this a number of times over the years, and they have all had the original boxes underneath, as the work to remove them would be too great. Anyway, what would be the benefit of removing them to the person 'modernising' the car all of those years ago? If you get stuck (which I doubt) I have a pair of the housings.
The waist line on the door and rear 1/4 panel, which are supposed to line up, are miles from one another. What is the cause of this?
Out of interest, is the car in the Lebanon? |
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franklinunes
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john7
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when they filled the semaphores on my 55 bug they just put a few braze spots and smoothed over with filler. they didnt even remove the semaphores
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franklinunes
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| when they filled the semaphores on my 55 bug they just put a few braze spots and smoothed over with filler. they didnt even remove the semaphores |
Is what i wanted to figure as well, but in my case they were empty 
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canaris
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The waist line on the door and rear 1/4 panel, which are supposed to line up, are miles from one another. What is the cause ?!
No idea what is the cause?! Any suggestion? I just bought the car and going to restore it soon |
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xeno
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| canaris wrote: |
The waist line on the door and rear 1/4 panel, which are supposed to line up, are miles from one another. What is the cause ?!
No idea what is the cause?! Any suggestion? I just bought the car and going to restore it soon |
look as though your missing the "door alignment bump stops" and maybe the door is sagging (due too worn hinge pins?)
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canaris
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Here r the photos after taking the paint off! The body work told me that I need the housing for the semaphore! What do u think ? |
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ChrisRheinschild
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| This looks like a type 111, no chrome, etc. Standard model and not Deluxe. Probably makes no difference in the semephores. |
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canaris
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| ChrisRheinschild wrote: |
| This looks like a type 111, no chrome, etc. Standard model and not Deluxe. Probably makes no difference in the semephores. |
It s a deluxe split, my question is can I remove the welded metal and place the semaphores straight on without buying the cans (housing) for the semaphores?
Here is a link for housings http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=1557640 |
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usariemen
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Here r the photos after taking the paint off! The body work told me that I need the housing for the semaphore! What do u think ? |
If you have an other semaphore car anywhere close to you, take measurements and try to cut carefully exactely where the original hole was.
Maybe the inside is not too messed up and you can save and keep what you have.
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57chop
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| I have a few sets of early semaphore post pre 55 . If you need a set email me. |
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canaris
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| 57chop wrote: |
| I have a few sets of early semaphore post pre 55 . If you need a set email me. |
Pics ? How much? |
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57chop
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$80 plus shipping
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nlorntson
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| I think the holes are there and you do not need housings. Remove more of the paint and mud. I bet you do have the holes there. |
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