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PostPosted: Thu Jun 22, 2006 4:20 pm    Post subject: 383 Bosch Distributor caps Reply with quote

What's the difference (associated years, applications) between the black cap and brown one?
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Also, the black cap and the brown cap on the left each have a notch on the bottom lip (to the left of the half circle for the condenser). But the brown cap on the right doesn't. What's it for?

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 22, 2006 5:11 pm    Post subject: Re: 383 Bosch Distributor caps Reply with quote

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What's the difference (associated years, applications) between the black cap and brown one?
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The cap pictured in the center is a replacement for Pre '48 VWs. The raised finger for the coil wire is the giveaway.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 22, 2006 5:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Never seen 2 different height ones. I have a whole box of them, I'll have to check, but I think they are all the same height....
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 22, 2006 5:34 pm    Post subject: Re: 383 Bosch Distributor caps Reply with quote

RareAir wrote:
Suboval wrote:
What's the difference (associated years, applications) between the black cap and brown one?
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The cap pictured in the center is a replacement for Pre '48 VWs. The raised finger for the coil wire is the giveaway.


Pre-48 only? Are the distributor wires different (low resistence) Pre-48? Did they change in 49 to a higher restance? The "raised finger" is a resistor ~ 10.2 kOHMS. So wouldn't that also be used for ignition noise suppression for cars that had radios?
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 22, 2006 5:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Never seen 2 different height ones. I have a whole box of them, I'll have to check, but I think they are all the same height....


The angle that the picture was taken is deceiving. Both Bosch brown caps are the same height. The black one is taller due to the "raised finger'.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 22, 2006 7:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Never seen 2 different height ones. I have a whole box of them, I'll have to check, but I think they are all the same height....


The angle that the picture was taken is deceiving. Both Bosch brown caps are the same height. The black one is taller due to the "raised finger'.


Ok, make sense....
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 3:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello once again.

Can anyone help me identify this Cap distributor, it was in box in the shelf including a dismantled 383 distributor 5G.

I never saw it i and I cant find anything like this in the forum, so I ask kindly if anyone saw this one.

there is only the top flat cap, is missing the "body" cap Confused .

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 27, 2012 8:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can't make out the badge numbers but 5G would be a May 1951 distributor. The cap on the left does not appear as typical for VW while the one on the right does.

Not sure why some caps have that little notch and others do not.

Only other tid bit I can ad is that it was not unusual for the caps to have mismatched colors.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 27, 2012 8:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Non VW distributors used a flat cap also is it's probably for another car.

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 28, 2012 4:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I can't make out the badge numbers but 5G would be a May 1951 distributor. The cap on the left does not appear as typical for VW while the one on the right does.

Not sure why some caps have that little notch and others do not.

Only other tid bit I can ad is that it was not unusual for the caps to have mismatched colors.


Hi thanks for the reply, both distributers are VW VE 4 BRS 383, one is 5G the one with that "different" flat cap, the other is 10F oct 50, and is with correct cap for split.

The other maybe is replacement later part, just was curious about it Wink


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Non VW distributors used a flat cap also is it's probably for another car.


yes maybe is that, I was just curious was mixed with this 2 distributers, the most strange I need a 52 distributer and I have 2 which are early Laughing

Maybe the one 52 got broken and the guy in the past got 1 complete and the other to use has spare parts if needed, never know, whatever I will use it.


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 28, 2012 9:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I frequently see these 383 distributors with the short Garbe Lahmeyer "VW" caps. They do fit but are incorrect application.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 28, 2012 10:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

tasb wrote:
I frequently see these 383 distributors with the short Garbe Lahmeyer "VW" caps. They do fit but are incorrect application.


Yes I see is wrong, I will use the correct one, in the past everything was great to use when the original parts were missing Laughing .

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PostPosted: Sat May 26, 2012 8:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm trying to determine the age and app. of the cap on the left. It is shown with a normal 383 side exit cap. It does fit the 383 distributor perfectly however the inside is about 10mm deeper than the normal cap, the top section is about 10mm larger in diameter with 3 hold down screws and fits OVER the lower body instead of on top of the lower body. Also the wire exit hood is turned a bit more clockwise looking from the top down. There is a Bosch number inside ZZVS73Z11
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 6:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Will these fit a later model distributor like an 034?
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 6:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Will these fit a later model distributor like an 034?

No.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 23, 2012 5:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Will this style flat BOSCH distributor cap fit a 019 ?
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 23, 2012 1:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No....
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 21, 2014 10:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually that taller flat cap will work on the VJ 4 BR 8, 019, VJ 4 BR 25, 010's. They were stock for Goliath and possibly others. I have a Goliath VJ 4 BR 16 that uses the tall cap as stock

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 05, 2020 12:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Glenn wrote:
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Yes,

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The hooded exit for the plug wires is a bit cockeyed but it does fit/work fine.
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