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THX 1138 Samba Member
Joined: September 22, 2013 Posts: 52 Location: San Francisco CA
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Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2014 6:09 pm Post subject: How do you restore an original VW wood roof rack? |
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I saw a local ad for an old wood roof rack stamped VW of Germany. Its pretty cheap but it needs to be restored.
Might take on this project but have a few questions. What is the proper way to restore an old VW roof rack?
How do you replace the rivets? I imagine you would have to remove at least one side to take the old wood off.
Does anyone know where to get the original style rivets?
I see people offering the wood slates but the edges look too square.
Did the originals have rounded edges or were they square?
What about the rubber tubes for the legs? Are they originally black or clear? And, of course, where can i get the correct decal thats not a sticker?
Any help appreciated, I did a search and didn’t find any helpful topics that dealt with restoring a rack.
Only found old topics about power coating or what the paint color is.
Maybe I was looking in the wrong place. |
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gt1953 Samba Member
Joined: May 08, 2002 Posts: 13848 Location: White Mountains Arizona
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Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2014 7:11 am Post subject: |
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Honestly send it to Rick Restorations in Vegas and he will charge you like 2 grand. You could do all of the work yourself with research, check with the local VW club members too. _________________ Volkswagen: We tune what we drive.
Numbers Matching VW's are getting harder to find. Source out the most Stock vehicle and keep that way. You will be glad you did.
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Miklo ¡Chale!
Joined: August 27, 2008 Posts: 2058 Location: Antelope Valley, Ca
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Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2014 11:08 am Post subject: |
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Just blast the old paint off and have a good look at all the welds. Then repaint to whatever color you found was OG.
If the slats are really beat I would break out the old slats leaving the rivets in place. Make new slats but put a notch or a V at the ends to slip around the rivets once the slats were bent into the rack.
I'm pretty sure the slats are squared off also.
I'm not so sure on the rubber protectors though... but what I have seen used quite a bit is braided fuel line cut to fit. Any rubber fuel line would do. The plastic clear protectors don't stay clear for long and don't last as long as the rubber fuel line.
... Then yes, there's Rick's Restorations. _________________ ✠Miklo✠
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RareAir Samba Member
Joined: May 11, 2002 Posts: 14577 Location: 18 miles North of the border
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hitest Samba Member
Joined: September 30, 2008 Posts: 10296 Location: Prime Meridian, ID
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Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2014 7:05 pm Post subject: |
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The slats are not square. I'm not pretty sure- I'm sure. The right way is to cut your wood strips to right dimensions- but push them through your router table 4 times against a 1/4" round-over bit.
As for rivets- you'll have to ask around. But, if you cannot find substitutes... One way is to grind the Phillips head nearly entirely off a stove bolt, cut it to duplicate rivet length- then crush it as a substitute (but it looks kinda messy underneath). Other folks have been somewhat successful at reusing the old rivets. I was not- and gave in to just running bolts through it.
VeeDubDoug is exactly right with the wood slat swap technique- and I second his vote for simple, (but) unbraided fuel/vacuum line from your FLAPS. I sat down and cut up a mile of this so my friends would all have proper looking rack paws. _________________
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panicman Samba Member
Joined: December 18, 2011 Posts: 2290 Location: Canby, OR
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Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2014 11:30 pm Post subject: |
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For the slats, you would be amazed at how much you can revitalize very old, gray, dried out wood. If they are broken, that's one thing. But if they are intact, and just look like skeletal gray wood, you may be able to bring them back. I believe the original slats were German ash. Mine looked bad, but I made a solution of baking powder and water, and used a very stiff scrub brush to clean them, top bottom, and sides. It took several hours, but the wood came back a vibrant blonde. What I scrubbed out of the wood looked like a combination of vomit and diarrhea. After the clean wood dried, I gave it a light all-over sanding with a scotchbrite pad. I applied a few coats of Varethane, and created a replacement load sticker based on a photo of an original. I used that to produce a water slide decal, which I applied and sealed onto the wood using more coats of Varethane. The frame should be finished in a dull silver. Not great photos for detail, but you can see how the cleaning brought the color back to the wood in these pictures:
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Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 3:25 pm Post subject: |
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hitest wrote: |
As for rivets- you'll have to ask around. But, if you cannot find substitutes... One way is to grind the Phillips head nearly entirely off a stove bolt, cut it to duplicate rivet length- then crush it as a substitute (but it looks kinda messy underneath). Other folks have been somewhat successful at reusing the old rivets. I was not- and gave in to just running bolts through it.
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You shouldn't have to drill out the rivets, and replace them. Take a look at the add above. There are slots in the wood, where they slide into the rack, and up against the rivet. _________________ WANTED: Henry Veale Santa Rosa plate frames
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Joined: March 10, 2010 Posts: 3122 Location: santa ana ca
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Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2015 8:45 pm Post subject: |
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panicman wrote: |
For the slats, you would be amazed at how much you can revitalize very old, gray, dried out wood. If they are broken, that's one thing. But if they are intact, and just look like skeletal gray wood, you may be able to bring them back. I believe the original slats were German ash. Mine looked bad, but I made a solution of baking powder and water, and used a very stiff scrub brush to clean them, top bottom, and sides. It took several hours, but the wood came back a vibrant blonde. What I scrubbed out of the wood looked like a combination of vomit and diarrhea. After the clean wood dried, I gave it a light all-over sanding with a scotchbrite pad. I applied a few coats of Varethane, and created a replacement load sticker based on a photo of an original. I used that to produce a water slide decal, which I applied and sealed onto the wood using more coats of Varethane. The frame should be finished in a dull silver. Not great photos for detail, but you can see how the cleaning brought the color back to the wood in these pictures:
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i just bought a rack juzt like the one in those pictures , stamped on it is vw made in Germany ,it does not sit on the drip rail ,its about 2 inches short on either side ,could this be bent so it reaches? 74sb |
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Dave Samba Elder
Joined: July 11, 2002 Posts: 2693 Location: The Forest Moon of Endor, in the Redwoods
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Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2015 1:44 pm Post subject: |
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I used aluminum aircraft rivets on mine, worked good, smashed down easily, and held the wood tight. _________________ 2003 Samba Chummie Winner- Best Story
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Joined: December 29, 2014 Posts: 2 Location: Portland, OR
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Posted: Sun Mar 01, 2015 11:36 am Post subject: |
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Is the OG 10 slats frame aluminum or steal? _________________ 59 Beetle
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panicman Samba Member
Joined: December 18, 2011 Posts: 2290 Location: Canby, OR
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Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2015 7:09 am Post subject: |
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They are steel. _________________ Plate of shrimp |
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