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Bunky67 Samba Member
Joined: July 05, 2012 Posts: 142 Location: SW Michigan
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Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2014 3:13 pm Post subject: Distributor help? |
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I have a single port 1600 with the 30pict 1 carb and 205AN DVDA distributor. The car runs good after to get it rolling . But on take off falls flat on its face. I have read and realize that I need a SVSA distributor. Like a 205K or L. Is there any other options?
Or does anyone have another suggestion. I don't want to spend a lot as I'm hoping.to upgrade to a dual port. [/i] |
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Randy in Maine Samba Member
Joined: August 03, 2003 Posts: 34890 Location: The Beach
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Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2014 3:19 pm Post subject: |
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Plenty of 205k, l, M or Ts in the classifieds for cheap money.
A 009, 019, or a 010 mechanical advance would also work easily. |
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wcfvw69 Samba Purist
Joined: June 10, 2004 Posts: 13389 Location: Arizona
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Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2014 3:30 pm Post subject: |
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I have a 205K and a 205T distributor. Both work great on a solex PICT30-1 with a power circuit. I'll assume your carb also has it? If you're not sure, post a picture of the base of the carb. There should be some numbers stamped on it like 75-1 for an example.
Just a suggestion, try and buy a good, used REBUILT distributor from TASB or other know good distributor rebuilders. The reason I suggest this is most of these distributors are very old now and need to come apart for a good cleaning/inspection. Most used ones have never been apart. The vacuum cans also need to be solid and not have any tears in the membrane inside. Those guys that rebuild them know their stuff and insure all the parts are good before shipping to you. There prices for these distributors are good as well.
There are some parts inside of these distributors that are not easy to come by. Example, the fiber washers are almost ALWAYS broken. You can get them in kits but the kit only includes one and most of the time you need two. The kits are $35 dollars each.
I just bought a used 205T distributor for $45 bucks. The seller said its "in great shape". Um, yea, no, no it isn't. It has a ton of up/down play on the shaft and I'm sure the reason why is the fiber washers are broken and have fallen to the bottom. I just got some new fiber washers and am going to go thru and refresh it before using it. _________________ Contact me at [email protected]
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Bunky67 Samba Member
Joined: July 05, 2012 Posts: 142 Location: SW Michigan
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Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2014 8:30 am Post subject: 009? |
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A few guys around me dislike the 009. I have an electronic distributor. No vacuum advance or markings on it.
Should I try this ? I just don't want the same.stumbling issue I currently have [/u] |
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Randy in Maine Samba Member
Joined: August 03, 2003 Posts: 34890 Location: The Beach
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Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2014 8:58 am Post subject: Re: 009? |
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Bunky67 wrote: |
A few guys around me dislike the 009. I have an electronic distributor. No vacuum advance or markings on it.
Should I try this ? I just don't want the same.stumbling issue I currently have [/u] |
That would be a 009 with a points replacement module in it. No improvement over a 009 IMO.
Find a stock vacuum unit (or a 019) and you will be happier in the long run. |
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tasb The Distributor Distributor
Joined: April 27, 2002 Posts: 6371 Location: Pentwater, Michigan
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Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2014 10:24 am Post subject: |
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The 113 905 205 K, M, T cores will be fairly easy to find. They are typically overpriced here on the Samba. You won't find a 113 905 205 L out there. These are Garbe-Lahmeyer distributors and the part number is triangular sticker that has worn off over the years. Her's a pic of a "J" for reference.
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Bunky67 Samba Member
Joined: July 05, 2012 Posts: 142 Location: SW Michigan
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Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2014 12:46 pm Post subject: One last thing before I buy a rebuilt |
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Ok I have one last thing I want to ask My brother has a old Mallory Dual point Distributor all mechanical no Vacuum advance, He got it with some parts he got when he bought his rail from my uncle.
Is there a chance that this one would work I'm just trying to get out without spending a lot of money, |
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tasb The Distributor Distributor
Joined: April 27, 2002 Posts: 6371 Location: Pentwater, Michigan
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Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2014 7:11 pm Post subject: |
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Mechanical advance distributors do not need to be mated to the correct carburetor so yes the Mallory can be tuned. _________________ Roads Scholar &
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Bunky67 Samba Member
Joined: July 05, 2012 Posts: 142 Location: SW Michigan
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Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2014 5:39 am Post subject: points set up? |
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Ok my friend loaned me a 205t.
So can someone tell me what to set the points and timing at ? |
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Glenn Mr. 010
Joined: December 25, 2001 Posts: 76938 Location: Sneaking up behind you
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Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2014 6:03 am Post subject: |
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Distributor: VW 113-905-205T
Timing Set At:: 0deg TDC @ 800-950rpm w/strobe w/vacuum hose disconnected and plugged
Advance/Retard Range: Vacuum (Advance Only): 17-19deg @ 1.3 In. Hg, 32-35deg @ 3.2 In. Hg
Points are .016", Dwell is 47* _________________ Glenn
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Bunky67 Samba Member
Joined: July 05, 2012 Posts: 142 Location: SW Michigan
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Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2014 6:11 pm Post subject: Thanks for all the help |
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Ok finally got the 205t in today. Runs much better still a little hesitation but much better and smoother.
Now I just need to get a new set of points anyone have a part number for the points |
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tasb The Distributor Distributor
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Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2014 5:17 pm Post subject: |
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Bosch short # 01 013
and here is a useful link:
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=400814&highlight=visual _________________ Roads Scholar &
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Bunky67 Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2014 7:02 pm Post subject: |
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wcfvw69 wrote: |
I have a 205K and a 205T distributor. Both work great on a solex PICT30-1 with a power circuit. I'll assume your carb also has it? If you're not sure, post a picture of the base of the carb. There should be some numbers stamped on it like 75-1 for an example
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My numbers are VW 78-1 other side numbers are R-6-286 |
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wcfvw69 Samba Purist
Joined: June 10, 2004 Posts: 13389 Location: Arizona
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Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2014 7:22 pm Post subject: |
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Bunky67 wrote: |
wcfvw69 wrote: |
I have a 205K and a 205T distributor. Both work great on a solex PICT30-1 with a power circuit. I'll assume your carb also has it? If you're not sure, post a picture of the base of the carb. There should be some numbers stamped on it like 75-1 for an example
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My numbers are VW 78-1 other side numbers are R-6-286 |
Your current carb DOES NOT have the power fuel circuit on it like the base number VW 105-1 (1967 carb) does. I have the original 30-1 carb with the base 105-1 base and power circuit. Like Andy, I think it's the best carb VW/Solex installed on their carb'd bugs.
You can find that carb used in the Samba classifieds. Most will need to have the throttle bushing replaced. You could also contact http://volkzbitz.com/Prices.php
He's got a GREAT reputation on this site for doing great work on these carbs. _________________ Contact me at [email protected]
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wcfvw69 Samba Purist
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Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2014 7:24 pm Post subject: |
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http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=185095
You carb is probably stamped 75-1. Here's a great link from Andy w/lots of great information in it about the carbs/distributors. _________________ Contact me at [email protected]
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Bunky67 Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2014 2:58 am Post subject: carb |
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Well I will have to did up the chart but I found a chart that showed the 78 and the 105 both showing them wih power circuit but wo/ball. Is this chart incorrect? |
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wcfvw69 Samba Purist
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Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2014 8:57 am Post subject: Re: carb |
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Bunky67 wrote: |
Well I will have to did up the chart but I found a chart that showed the 78 and the 105 both showing them wih power circuit but wo/ball. Is this chart incorrect? |
Your best bet would be to PM Andy and ask him. He's the expert on those Solex carbs. _________________ Contact me at [email protected]
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Decades of VW and VW parts restoration experience.
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**Restored German Bosch distributors for sale or I can restore yours**
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