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Daniangel
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 Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 4:52 pm Post subject: Early Ghia seat belt mounts |
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My 62 has the mounts on both sides for the top of the belt, and on the inside, behind the brake, but the 2 on the out side by the doors are nowhere to be found. Whats going on?
I have NON-RETRACTABLE 3 point belts from Wolfsburg West.. |
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ovghiaguy
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| Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 6:14 pm Post subject: late model seat belts. |
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| look underneath the car at the pan and see if the bolthole for the belt is there. (both sides) |
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glutamodo 
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I think Ghias were like Bugs when seat belt mounts were added. At that time, shoulder ("diagonal") belt mounts were standard, but outer lap belt mounts were not and were an option. VW had a technical bulletin in 1962 about it:
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O2COOLED
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| Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 2:08 am Post subject: Re: late model seat belts. |
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| ovghiaguy wrote: |
| look underneath the car at the pan and see if the bolthole for the belt is there. (both sides) |
X2. I would check this first. Should be near the heater channel right by the door pillar.
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sputnick60
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glutamodo
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I think the seat belt mountings changed in 1965...
Last edited by glutamodo on Mon Apr 30, 2012 3:49 am; edited 1 time in total |
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Angus Dowrie
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My early '63 model (Oct '62 build) has the shoulder mount, and the one on the tunnel as you have circled. However it didn't have the third one behind the seat rail as a factory mount - it had an aftermarket bracket with two bolts through the floor (and doubling plate under the floorpan) with a 90 degree bend and single mounting hole for the belt. I've seen similar ones fitted to a few beetles as well I've owned.
Australia didn't have compulsory belts until the late60's/early 70's, people started retro-fitting belts to old cars in the late 70's and 80's when they got used to them - there was a backlash against them at first. I think Victoria was the first state to bring them in, and most followed within a couple of years.
I can take a photo of the bracket if you want, but any seat-belt supplier/installer should be able to supply them.
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c21darrel
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| Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 2:15 pm Post subject: |
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| If the pans have been replaced, it may not have them. The replacement pans need to have these drilled and welded during the install. |
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Jeromerino
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| glutamodo wrote: |
| I think the seat belt mountings changed in 1965... |
Nasty 1964 seat belt plug adapters and bolts.
30 minutes later, not so nasty.
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TheFop
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So the pre 62's didn't have seat belts? that would confirm my findings as I don't have mounts on either my tunnel or the floor pans of my 61.
My plan is to cut out flaps from the tunnel and add mounts there and weld mounts into for modern retractable belts, I figure its better to be alive and enjoy a not quite period correct car than be dead and not be able to enjoy any.
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