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bugjuice82 Samba Member
Joined: July 24, 2005 Posts: 356 Location: Southeast Michigan
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Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2014 2:26 pm Post subject: Empi Hpmx's hitting shroud. |
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I have a 2110, that was running a 36HP shroud. I swapped over to a Stock Thing shroud, and the carbs hit the shroud so I now have a vacuum leak.
From my search results, I need CB offset manifolds and linkage.
I see item # 3125.
http://www.cbperformance.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=3125
Is this correct? I'm tired of buying stuff that don't fit.
Does anyone have a problem with shroud or body clearance running the cb kit?
I really don't have the heart to ding the expensive shroud, so don't advise that!
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Brian Samba Moderator
Joined: May 28, 2012 Posts: 8340 Location: Oceanside
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Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2014 11:59 pm Post subject: |
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I just got some EMPI 44's and have the deluxe kit, mine have the same issue hitting the shroud. They still work but dont feel right, my future solution is a hammer.
Also I think you'll get a better return action if you use the other mount for the return spring.
Dning the hell out of the shroud, it wont hurt it. _________________ Wash your hands
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modok Samba Member
Joined: October 30, 2009 Posts: 26743 Location: Colorado Springs
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Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2014 12:03 am Post subject: |
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In my experience the CB manifolds do clear the shroud.
Also, expensive or not, all that is in there is empty space. Expensive empty space??? I'd cut and weld. |
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bugjuice82 Samba Member
Joined: July 24, 2005 Posts: 356 Location: Southeast Michigan
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Bashr52 Samba Member
Joined: July 16, 2006 Posts: 5666 Location: On an island in VA
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Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2014 7:27 am Post subject: |
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44 IDF's on my 73 Thing with stock shroud, no hitting issues at all. Now getting to the front plugs and idle jets with the old filter mounting brackets in the way, that is another story..
I'd try a differnt set of manifolds before I go beating the hell out of the shroud.
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stan_tichomirov Samba Member
Joined: May 24, 2005 Posts: 1719 Location: San Francisco, CA
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Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2014 7:52 am Post subject: |
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I have Spanish 40IDFs with the Redline manifolds and air cleaners and had to dent the crap out of the sides of my later shroud. It fits fine now though. My 1835 is a bit narrower than a normal stock dualport.
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mark tucker Samba Member
Joined: April 08, 2009 Posts: 23937 Location: SHALIMAR ,FLORIDA
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Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2014 8:02 am Post subject: |
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different engine combos will put the crabs at different locations. you can angle mill the intakes for clearance if you dont want to ding your thing. I did a 2387 in a guys porsche 912 and the hinges were eating the air cleaners badly so I angle milled them to bring them intogeather about 3/4" for clearance. |
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esde Samba Member
Joined: October 20, 2007 Posts: 5927 Location: central rust belt
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Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2014 8:24 am Post subject: |
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If you mill the gasket surface at an angle, you may have to face where the nuts and washers seat also. I recently had some DCNF manifolds machined to move them toward the shroud as they were too wide for a beetle. The angle where the nut seats was too severe and they had to go back to the shop to be spot faced. In your situation, I'd just pony up and buy the CB offset manifolds. |
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mark tucker Samba Member
Joined: April 08, 2009 Posts: 23937 Location: SHALIMAR ,FLORIDA
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Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2014 12:20 pm Post subject: |
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all jokes esde....there are not many intakes that are flat where the nut go's..... but yes it is noce to have them flat...but the non flat ones sort of act like a wavy/lock washer as it torsions the bolt over a bit |
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modok Samba Member
Joined: October 30, 2009 Posts: 26743 Location: Colorado Springs
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Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2014 4:48 pm Post subject: |
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yeah, I just file them flat where the nuts go.
I tilted my big beefs INWARD. I was thinking about suggesting those too, but if he isn't adventurous enough to remove the useless appendages of a fanshroud......... |
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bugjuice82 Samba Member
Joined: July 24, 2005 Posts: 356 Location: Southeast Michigan
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Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2014 7:54 pm Post subject: |
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Update.
Got a used set of offset manifolds for $40 and fitted a berg linkage I had left over from My IDA's, and all is well now. Thanks for the reply's. _________________ 67 Cal Look Beetle
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mark tucker Samba Member
Joined: April 08, 2009 Posts: 23937 Location: SHALIMAR ,FLORIDA
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Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2014 6:40 am Post subject: |
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great!! I have a old set of bugpoop intakes that somebody tried to make offset.....they angle milled them to tilt forwardand or rearward. about 3/8" off one end,not flat for squat.Ill fix them someday. |
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MURZI Samba Member
Joined: August 25, 2005 Posts: 5063 Location: Madisonville, La
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Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2014 7:43 am Post subject: |
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You would think EMPI would copy someone else's intake design to fix this problem....they copy everything else. _________________ 62 vert
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