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19super73 Hardcore Stock Nazi
Joined: October 18, 2007 Posts: 4351 Location: Cité Soleil
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Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2014 9:43 pm Post subject: Were all '74's L-Jet? |
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The reason I ask is that I went to take the AFM off my 1974 variant parts car today, to find that it did not exist. It looks like the car has the d-jet set up, rather than L-jet. The air cleaner box (round) for the d-jet was there. The car has not been robbed for parts in any way, until I got it.
So, was this car a d-jet from factory or was it swapped over to d-jet in it's life? It is a manual transmission car. I don't know if Canada got any cars that were very basic and had the older fuel management system in them. I looked for the VIN sticker on the b-pillar, but it is not there at all. Not even painted over. This car shows no signs of being re-sprayed in it's life. _________________ 1970 Campmobile [url=https://www.vw-mplate.com/mplate-47260.png]Click to view image[/URL]
1970 Fastback 1600 TL
1971 Doka [url=https://www.vw-mplate.com/mplate-14845.png]Click to view image[/URL]
1973 Super Beetle
1973 Westfalia [url=https://www.vw-mplate.com/mplate-31892.png]Click to view image[/URL]
1974 412 Variant
1975 La Grande Bug
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Tram Samba Socialist
Joined: May 02, 2003 Posts: 22697 Location: Still Feelin' the Bern- Once you've felt it you can't un- feel it.
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Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2014 10:41 pm Post subject: |
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Any chance it's a '73 titled as a '74? _________________ Немає виправдання для війни! Я з Україною.
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dawie Samba Member
Joined: July 27, 2008 Posts: 217 Location: Cape Town, South Africa
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Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2014 11:38 pm Post subject: |
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What is the code letter of the engine? |
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19super73 Hardcore Stock Nazi
Joined: October 18, 2007 Posts: 4351 Location: Cité Soleil
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bb412 Samba Member
Joined: June 30, 2004 Posts: 300 Location: canada
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Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2014 4:59 am Post subject: were all,74 |
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hi ,,go to read with Google,, injection Bosch d,jet by rentlist,,,,you can see the pn. for many motor block,, btw,,beefore 73,,the 412 has ,,d,,jet and for the 74-75 that was ,,l,jet,, and the type 2 afther 74 has the ,,l,,jet,, same parts for injection,,and you look too for the porsche 914,,pélican porsche tech. ,, same years for same injection with the 412,,btw,,the 1.7 has the Bosch ,,d,, and 1.8 ,,the L,jet |
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bb412 Samba Member
Joined: June 30, 2004 Posts: 300 Location: canada
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Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2014 5:04 am Post subject: were all 74 |
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your car here look a 74 ,,with her alluminium , bumper,,you can see the date of fabication on the driver side central door post, the question here is the pn. on the motor for to know if the motor is for ,,L,JET ,,OR BOSCH ,,D,, |
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19super73 Hardcore Stock Nazi
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Chris Walden Samba Member
Joined: June 03, 2010 Posts: 143 Location: Indianapolis, Indiana
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Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2014 4:50 pm Post subject: |
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Yes, I think surely that is the case (that all 1.7's with manual trans. were D jet). As a matter of possible interest, I once tried swapping over a complete D jet system, wiring harness, processor and all into a '74 1.8 variant (station wagon here in the mid west) that I'd also converted over to manual transmission. The transmission swap was a success, the F.I. somewhat less so. It ran fairly well for about a week before it went sour. No one at the time (late 80's), including, obviously, myself could diagnose the problem. I ended up having to install that wretched Weber DFV conversion kit into it which, really, was no solution at all as no one (including, obviously, myself) could tune to run right. At the risk of sounding geographically ignorant, where is Cite Solell?
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19super73 Hardcore Stock Nazi
Joined: October 18, 2007 Posts: 4351 Location: Cité Soleil
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dawie Samba Member
Joined: July 27, 2008 Posts: 217 Location: Cape Town, South Africa
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Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 12:43 am Post subject: |
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Code EA is 1700 with 8.2:1 compression.
For 01-08-73 (Start of 74 production year), engine number EA098793 started, and numbers EC, AN, and AT started at 000 001.
(Source, Type4.org). Other sources shows similar.
Chas-01-08-73:
414 2000 000 for sedan, (station wagon would be 416 2000 000).
on 31-12-73:
chas: 414 2023 434
eng: EA 100 360
Conclusion: i think it is possible that the car came from the factory equipped with a 1700 D-jet.
By the way, the 1700 D-jet continued in South African 412LE production, (alongside the cheaper plain 412 1700 twincarb model, until the last handful were assembled here in 1975. The 1800 was never available in this market.
Think the "vin number position on the dash" at the time probably only applied to vehicles exported to the USA/ North American market. Elsewhere it was only under the bonnet/rear seat. |
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19super73 Hardcore Stock Nazi
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Wildthings Samba Member
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Posted: Mon May 05, 2014 7:57 am Post subject: |
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VW is well noted for using up parts on hand as well. Maybe they just found a few D-jet systems and this was their way of getting rid of them. |
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Mike Fisher Samba Member
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Posted: Mon May 05, 2014 8:50 am Post subject: |
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They used up old/wrong stock with Type 3 wheels. All my squares came with ET41 rather than the ET46 that they are supposed to have on them. Russ Wolfe said they had all been changed, but i have a hard time believing that? _________________ https://imgur.com/user/FisherSquareback/posts
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Stefan T Samba Member
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Posted: Tue May 06, 2014 9:48 am Post subject: |
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The euro AN (85 hp 1800) engine was equpt with dual carbs |
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19super73 Hardcore Stock Nazi
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19super73 Hardcore Stock Nazi
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NASkeet Samba Member
Joined: April 29, 2006 Posts: 2947 Location: South Benfleet, Essex, UK
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Posted: Sat Aug 02, 2014 8:17 am Post subject: |
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The British specification, 1974 VW 412LS, with AN-series, VW 1800 Type 4 style air-cooled engine, had a compression ratio of 8.5:1, twin Solex carburettors and 85 DIN horsepower @ 5000 rpm. _________________ Regards.
Nigel A. Skeet
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19super73 Hardcore Stock Nazi
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Vanapplebomb Samba Member
Joined: November 03, 2010 Posts: 5389 Location: Holland, MI
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Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2015 3:04 am Post subject: |
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NASkeet wrote: |
The British specification, 1974 VW 412LS, with AN-series, VW 1800 Type 4 style air-cooled engine, had a compression ratio of 8.5:1, twin Solex carburettors and 85 DIN horsepower @ 5000 rpm. |
Were those the 34mm or the 40mm PDSIT's? _________________ 1800 Type 4 Berrien 295
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=487021 |
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Kharon8 Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2015 5:26 am Post subject: |
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1800cc 85hp version had 40mm PDSIT. _________________ Kharon -- '62 typ1, '63 typ14, '61 typ21, '65 typ34, '74 412, '75 typ26
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