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Diver71SB
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 19, 2014 2:06 pm    Post subject: New Wiring Harness Reply with quote

Well got my new harness, all the way up to the fuse panel, now im stuck because of someone else is hack job. does anyone now where I can get detailed schematic of the fuse panel.
Also I have a ignition switch with red red/blk black and grey wire trying to verify which ones plug up to the fuse block and which ones have a straight path


any helps thanks
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 19, 2014 3:16 pm    Post subject: Re: New Wiring Harness Reply with quote

Diver71SB wrote:
Well got my new harness, all the way up to the fuse panel, now im stuck because of someone else is hack job. does anyone now where I can get detailed schematic of the fuse panel.
Also I have a ignition switch with red red/blk black and grey wire trying to verify which ones plug up to the fuse block and which ones have a straight path


any helps thanks


Check the "Technical" dropdown at the top right just under the ads. You'll find a lot of information on at your fingertips.
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/archives/info/wiringt3.php
It's been recommended to have the schematic blown up and laminated as you'll probably reference it more than once while owning the car. Good luck and ask questions as there are a lot of folks who are willing to help and have a lot of experience. I can't help you at the moment as I'm not at the wiring stage of my build but hope the info helps.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 20, 2014 10:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

like this.. Idea ...Now you can follow circuts with a dry erase marker and wipe clean when finished with this problem Very Happy
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 15, 2014 1:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Brilliant! I need to do that as I want to redo my wiring loom too
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 22, 2014 6:45 pm    Post subject: Ignition & turn signal wiring Reply with quote

Well I have gotten everything except the steering column wiring and its because there are more wires and different colors then what my year calls for in the schematics.

Off the ignition side

red w/ black stripe
Red
Black
Gray

remaining Wires

Green w/Black Stripe
Black w/ White Stripe
white
black
Brown
Brown w/ White stripe
Gray
Red w/ Black stripe
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 22, 2014 8:22 pm    Post subject: Re: Ignition & turn signal wiring Reply with quote

Diver71SB wrote:
Well I have gotten everything except the steering column wiring and its because there are more wires and different colors then what my year calls for in the schematics.

Off the ignition side

red w/ black stripe -- starter
Red -- to fuse box !2 volts battery power)
Black -- fuse box, 12 volt switched power
Gray -- key warning buzzer

remaining Wires

Green w/Black Stripe -- right turn signals (to a "T" connector)
Black w/ White Stripe -- left turn signals (to a "T" connector)
white ??
black see above
Brown -- ground
Brown w/ White stripe -- ground on head light relay
Gray see above
Red w/ Black stripe see above


That's the best I can do working off the diagram. I think you repeated a few wires though, so I added my comments next to them. If those don't work, then you need to buy a VOM, or take it to someone who does auto electrics. Note; you'll have to provide them with a wiring diagram, so they can use their VOM to determine which wire does what though. I think most places charge 65 an hour to do that kind of work. Shocked
Keep in mind that IF the PO changed the ignition switch, some of the colors won't match, and you'll need to use a VOM to verify what they actually do.

A little research, and some time with a cheap VOM (from HF) will go a long way to fixing your problem.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 22, 2014 8:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's some pics of my 71 wiring:

ignition switch, harness side
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ignition switch plug (the "gray" might be "white")
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plugged into the column
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And the turn signal wiring loom
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Maybe these will help.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 23, 2014 7:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Donnie strickland wrote:
Here's some pics of my 71 wiring:

plugged into the column
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Maybe these will help.



Great pics Donnie. It's been a while since I saw a normal 71 under dash wiring, that I hadn't realized that there were 2 red/black stripped wires. One of those goes to the starter, and the other goes to the headlight switch. Vw did that change for 71 and later cars, to turn off the headlights whenever the ignition was shut off (so you didn't drain the battery).

The white wire, is probably a gray wire. I believe 2 were used, 1 for the key buzzer, and one to the fuse panel (to power the key buzzer).

The brown with a white stripe, goes to the "S" terminal on the headlight relay (it's basically a floating ground that allows the relay to switch between hi and low beams). That's why I called it a ground above.

I hope this clarifies a few things. I still think you need to get a cheap VOM (from HF), as it'll help you with what you're doing now, and later down the road for other electrical work. Wink
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 23, 2014 8:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bobnotch wrote:
I hope this clarifies a few things. I still think you need to get a cheap VOM (from HF), as it'll help you with what you're doing now, and later down the road for other electrical work. Wink


Me too Bob -- I can't imagine anybody trying to do wiring work without one, as these days they're so inexpensive and easily available.
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