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Northstate Trev Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 10:17 am Post subject: Crank hole engine tin |
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I have a front in with the crank hole and pivoting cover. What is a fair price for such a thing? Some see it as rare, but I have noticed a couple on Thesamba here for crazy money that have been on the site for years!
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ZwitterND Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 10:43 am Post subject: |
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That's a good question, I picked up one of those a long time ago, I forget why, even got the nut that goes on the pulley. Not sure what year it fits or model. I believe they were made to go on busses also. Anyone know the difference? _________________ Bill |
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johnshenry Samba Member
Joined: September 21, 2001 Posts: 9359 Location: Northwood, NH USA
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Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 10:52 am Post subject: |
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The 36 hp ones are far more common than the 25 hp ones, and worth less IMO. Me, I'd say 36hp $50-$90, 25hp ones, $75-$150.
Much harder to find are the beetle hand cranks, which are about twice as long as the bus ones, that seem to be everywhere... _________________ John Henry
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EverettB Administrator
Joined: April 11, 2000 Posts: 69734 Location: Phoenix Metro
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Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 1:39 pm Post subject: |
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Assuming they are in nice condition, I think the max on the 36hp style is about $75. I see there are a few on here for $80 right now, unsold.
The 25hp ones - more. I think I sold my last one for $125 and it was pretty clean. A lot of them have the little "finger" hacked off, which affects the value. _________________ How to Post Photos
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ZwitterND Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 1:49 pm Post subject: |
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Ok, help an energy challenged individual out, I am too lazy to look it up, whats the difference. The one I have looks like the tin on my zwitter, which is 25 hp but who knows what they put on the zwitter 25hp. _________________ Bill |
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EverettB Administrator
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johnshenry Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 2:14 pm Post subject: |
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You mean on the bottom, right? The non-rusty one giving me the finger??? That one is 25hp. _________________ John Henry
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ZwitterND Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 4:41 pm Post subject: |
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Ok now I had to go look it up, this came from a parts book I was told was for zwitters. mine does not look like this one so mine is for a pre zwitter 25 hp? Is the zwitter 25hp tin the same as 36hp? I am so confused..
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johnshenry Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 8:15 pm Post subject: |
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EverettB wrote: |
johnshenry wrote: |
EverettB wrote: |
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25hp on top |
You mean on the bottom, right? The non-rusty one giving me the finger??? That one is 25hp. |
Top meaning top of the photo. |
Ah, ok, that makes sense..... _________________ John Henry
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Northstate Trev Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2009 7:56 pm Post subject: |
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I guess I have a 36 hp model, anyone interested in adding it to their collection? _________________ 56 oval
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thom Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2009 6:40 am Post subject: |
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If you need a 25hp crank start tin, find a crappy 36hp one, remove the window flap, then spot-weld it to the 25hp tin and drill the hole. _________________ -Thom
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Brezelwerks Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2009 10:14 am Post subject: |
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thom wrote: |
If you need a 25hp crank start tin, find a crappy 36hp one, remove the window flap, then spot-weld it to the 25hp tin and drill the hole. |
Good idea but then that would be a grafted-in non-factory 25hp crank start tin..... |
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thom Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2009 10:31 am Post subject: |
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Brezelwerks wrote: |
thom wrote: |
If you need a 25hp crank start tin, find a crappy 36hp one, remove the window flap, then spot-weld it to the 25hp tin and drill the hole. |
Good idea but then that would be a grafted-in non-factory 25hp crank start tin..... |
Well, yes... I did this recently to retrofit a 1600 tin with crank start - it looks factory. If one did this to a 25hp tin, I wonder if anyone could tell it wasn't original. _________________ -Thom
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D-train Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2014 6:14 pm Post subject: |
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revamp of old thread.
i know everyone says the finger tin is 25hp.
an non finger is 36hp
but been in australia, we had hardly any 25hp engines (matador is main 25hp source, and even limited) since 53-4 was the 1st year of import.
would early aussie 36hps have the finger tin? does anyone have info about this? _________________ shiny paint doesnt make it worth any more |
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janerick3 Samba Member
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Posted: Sat Aug 23, 2014 1:15 pm Post subject: |
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Early 36hp rear tin has both the "finger" and the hole for the breather tube. This applies to both Type 1 and Type 2 (crank start) types.
This type was used at least through calendar year 1954 and possibly as late as the end of the 1955 model year. _________________ Thanks,
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D-train Samba Member
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Posted: Sat Aug 23, 2014 2:00 pm Post subject: |
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awesome. my 55 bus engine pulley piece was missing the bit for the finger, so ill need the finger crank tinware _________________ shiny paint doesnt make it worth any more |
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EverettB Administrator
Joined: April 11, 2000 Posts: 69734 Location: Phoenix Metro
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Posted: Sat Aug 23, 2014 4:51 pm Post subject: |
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janerick3 wrote: |
Early 36hp rear tin has both the "finger" and the hole for the breather tube. This applies to both Type 1 and Type 2 (crank start) types.
This type was used at least through calendar year 1954 and possibly as late as the end of the 1955 model year. |
I'm pretty sure my old 1/55 Bus had the finger but I cannot remember for sure.
I remember removing that piece of tin and it was a pain to get it back on because of the finger.
The Bus had the original engine and everything else was pretty original. _________________ How to Post Photos
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Posted: Sat Aug 23, 2014 4:58 pm Post subject: |
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The extractors on the engine at the moment are making it super difficult to see how it fits, but once I get the og round style exhaust on it I'm sure it will be fine, I'll put it on with the fan belt off! _________________ shiny paint doesnt make it worth any more |
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Brian_1952 Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Nov 24, 2014 1:48 pm Post subject: |
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I have a few of these pieces of tin and I just noticed something I have two different styles
The pressing on where it drops down some of them are slightly diagonal and other ones are steeper almost straight up-and-down _________________ (20-024785)Ambulance (20-037784)truck (20-035850)panel
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