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PostPosted: Wed Oct 17, 2012 4:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yep thanks Nicholas and Patrick of course.

Some of those detailing their restorations in this forum might like to add to this topic. Restoring a Ghia gives you a unique opportunity to pull everything apart and study it in detail. Pass on what you find here. Smile
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PostPosted: Tue May 21, 2013 10:26 am    Post subject: Re: 1958 Model Year Reply with quote

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Large 30 cm Ghia Decklid Script - 1955-1962

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Hood Badge - Sept 1957-1962

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Bat-ear Karmann Badge - 1955-1959 - Passenger side only.

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Are you sure about the bat-ear badge? I spotted an (what I believe) un-touched March 1960 Ghia with the older style badge.
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PostPosted: Tue May 21, 2013 12:16 pm    Post subject: Re: 1958 Model Year Reply with quote

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Bat-ear Karmann Badge - 1955-1959 - Passenger side only.

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Are you sure about the bat-ear badge? I spotted an (what I believe) un-touched March 1960 Ghia with the older style badge.


I think you could be right Tobias. The HoG catalog states 1956-1960 for the "Bat-ear" badge and 1961-1974 for the flat top badge. I have to say the issue isn't helped by the KGPR website stating 1956-1959 for the "Bat-ear" badge. Confused

I think we need input from the gurus.
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PostPosted: Tue May 28, 2013 10:45 am    Post subject: Re: 1958 Model Year Reply with quote

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I think you could be right Tobias. The HoG catalog states 1956-1960 for the "Bat-ear" badge and 1961-1974 for the flat top badge. I have to say the issue isn't helped by the KGPR website stating 1956-1959 for the "Bat-ear" badge. Confused

I think we need input from the gurus.


According to Neuffers catalouge the old style emblem was until july 1960 (the same goes for "Ghia-only"-speedo, symmetrical-euro headlights and white front turn signals for non-Italian European markets.

I trust Neuffer over KGPR

See my blog for pics of the "untouched" March 1960 Ghia: http://lowlightkaizen.blogspot.se/ (in Swedish)
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PostPosted: Tue May 28, 2013 11:51 am    Post subject: Re: 1958 Model Year Reply with quote

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See my blog for pics of the "untouched" March 1960 Ghia: http://lowlightkaizen.blogspot.se/ (in Swedish)


Nice '60 Cool Will you post up some more pictures on your blog?
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 24, 2013 2:44 pm    Post subject: Bat Ear side badge different but Reply with quote

But what about the sheet metal behind the early bat ear badge. Still the same basic outline indentation?

Or did it contour to the badge more earlier?

Just wondering.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 01, 2013 11:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I read somewhere that the sidetrim on a 61 is unique. Any confirmation or pictures on that?
Is it correct that the rear decklid of a 61 has the cooler dent only and no airfilter dent?
And while restoring mine i saw that the lowlight floor pan is used till 61. Dont know if it was used on later models to.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 01, 2013 2:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I dont think its side trim that is different, it is the door window chrome trim that is different.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 01, 2014 10:30 am    Post subject: Re: 1958 Model Year Reply with quote

John Moxon wrote:
tobiasax wrote:
John Moxon wrote:

Bat-ear Karmann Badge - 1955-1959 - Passenger side only.

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Are you sure about the bat-ear badge? I spotted an (what I believe) un-touched March 1960 Ghia with the older style badge.


I think you could be right Tobias. The HoG catalog states 1956-1960 for the "Bat-ear" badge and 1961-1974 for the flat top badge. I have to say the issue isn't helped by the KGPR website stating 1956-1959 for the "Bat-ear" badge. Confused

I think we need input from the gurus.



hi john

i did alot of research on the badge and the batear badge is correct for early 1960 ghias basically the ones with the lowlite fuel tanks, dash etc in ...............
my wifes ghia is a feb 1960 new body outside all lowlite inside and under the front hood, it was a right headache sorting the right bits for it but luckerly it was mostly complete
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 08, 2017 8:49 pm    Post subject: Re: Karmann Ghia Progressive changes 1955–1974 Reply with quote

I'm looking for details on the interior of a 65. For instance, was the ignition key in the same position as on the 66 (to the right side of driver in LHD car) or was it on the left?

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 09, 2017 12:59 pm    Post subject: Re: Karmann Ghia Progressive changes 1955–1974 Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 08, 2017 9:24 pm    Post subject: Re: Karmann Ghia Progressive changes 1955–1974 Reply with quote

Can someone tell me if the seats from a 1961 ghia coupe are the same as those in a beetle?
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 08, 2017 11:30 pm    Post subject: Re: Karmann Ghia Progressive changes 1955–1974 Reply with quote

alansvwTwinCab wrote:
Can someone tell me if the seats from a 1961 ghia coupe are the same as those in a beetle?

No, They are not the same.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 09, 2017 10:30 am    Post subject: Re: Karmann Ghia Progressive changes 1955–1974 Reply with quote

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Late January 1957

Rotary klob (driver + passenger side) changed to "slide control" (driver side) Wink
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 09, 2017 10:36 am    Post subject: Re: Karmann Ghia Progressive changes 1955–1974 Reply with quote

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December 1958

Dashboard changed as preparation for the form fitting dashboard cover (>>1959)
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 01, 2018 7:55 am    Post subject: Re: Karmann Ghia Progressive changes 1955–1974 Reply with quote

Hello

Is it possible to have a picture of a 71 door scraper.

I can't find it for my french one (i'm french Smile )


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 08, 2018 8:54 am    Post subject: Re: Karmann Ghia Progressive changes 1955–1974 Reply with quote

This is a 72 door. I can see by the steering wheel you have a 71 or earlier ghia.

Also, your door seal's round ball at the top back side of the door (as in your photo) should be pushed into the hole underneath the ball (not glued on top).
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 08, 2018 11:49 am    Post subject: Re: Karmann Ghia Progressive changes 1955–1974 Reply with quote

[Mod edit] This link takes you to the Karman Ghia Door differences discussion.

https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?p=6622659
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 08, 2018 6:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sputnick60 wrote:

pbaptist wrote:
Here some more education (for the people who likes it)

First and second series of decklids had holes for the festoon bulbs. Like Dave (retrowagen) mentioned, the real early ones didn't have the Karmann ghia script. If you look carefully there is a dent for the airfilter and pressings in the upper part of the decklid

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third style was still with the dent for the airfilter and with the pression.
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Later there was a hole added in the lower left side of the decklid and two small drain holes at the left and right side on the botton
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Next style had a larger holes and the pressings in the top partion disapperead
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And after that the plastic rear tray appaired
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Maybe I have missed a style, but this gives a nice overview.

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The number of clips for securing the harness to the license plate light also seems to have changed. Wit the later ones only seeming to have one clip. Would the harness not hang low over the engine/gen belt in that case?

Which of these decklids would correspond to the 65model?
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2018 6:07 pm    Post subject: Re: Karmann Ghia Progressive changes 1955–1974 Reply with quote

I’d like to add that 71 had a one year only turn signal switch.
Not certain of all the technical differences but I do know that the horn ring contacts are different.
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