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-Alex77- Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2013 7:19 am Post subject: |
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It depends, but most of the time stock pauter rockers+shafts can handle most loads. Pauter shafts are quite sturdy, dont know about the cheap rocker kits...
You can adapt 5-bolt arrangement like JPM rockers, but you dont need them if you have light valvetrain. _________________ Lasercut parts and CAD design |
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-Alex77- Samba Member
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Posted: Sat Aug 24, 2013 5:27 am Post subject: |
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I think you only need 5-bolt assembly if you are running K800 and heavier springs.
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mark tucker Samba Member
Joined: April 08, 2009 Posts: 23937 Location: SHALIMAR ,FLORIDA
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Posted: Sat Aug 24, 2013 10:45 pm Post subject: |
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I would rather have the 5 bolt. |
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-Alex77- Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Aug 25, 2013 2:38 am Post subject: |
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Heads will have 5 bolt arrangement, no problem. But you have to make your own blocks or buy JPM rockers. I can later design blocks for pauter 1.4 rockers. _________________ Lasercut parts and CAD design |
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-Alex77- Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Aug 26, 2013 5:50 am Post subject: |
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Noticed thing: JPM 5 bolt rockers dont fit, atleast if i design with same bolt pattern them, at JPM heads intake and exhaust are probably 43-44mm apart from each other.
My heads the valves are 46mm apart from each other, so custom shafts and blocks are needed, i am designing them at now, also stud pattern may differ littlebit at left end.
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-Alex77- Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Oct 16, 2013 12:00 pm Post subject: |
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There is green light now, maybe even this year the prototype is made. First we make probably just the 94mm model with small ports and CB supergrip valvestuff is used.
I am also desinging rocker covers, like CSP style.
Important question, how much can be pushrod tube holes relocated? _________________ Lasercut parts and CAD design |
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-Alex77- Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Dec 31, 2013 12:46 am Post subject: |
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Possibly we get first head pair out of oven at next month, for the test engine.
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mark tucker Samba Member
Joined: April 08, 2009 Posts: 23937 Location: SHALIMAR ,FLORIDA
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Posted: Tue Dec 31, 2013 12:27 pm Post subject: |
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dont forget oilers in the valve covers. why not also a canted valve version??(over grown 356/912 type)could also cant/angle the intake valve a bit too.making canted rocker satnds&shafts isant that hard either. but a diffeent valve cover may be needed. keep up the great work & getter done!!! |
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-Alex77- Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Jan 01, 2014 2:41 pm Post subject: |
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All the custom stuff later, just now the basic version, 94/101.6 bore etc
Probably the "easiest" custom versions would be with different port sizes, 6-stud holes, different style&size chambers, dual plugs etc _________________ Lasercut parts and CAD design |
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mark tucker Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Jan 01, 2014 2:52 pm Post subject: |
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I would think this is custom.....but yes I understand the reasoning.just dont understand redoing with out realy redoing a old desigine execpt for making there over there and better for cooling but not realy much diferent .just get them done and start the real updated all new desigine for killer performance. oh so much more can be done with modern technoligy.keep the good work coming we all enjoy seeing it, even if we can no longer afford it(unless we make it our selves) |
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-Alex77- Samba Member
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Posted: Tue May 13, 2014 10:05 am Post subject: |
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Unfortunately there has been some delay, but the heads will be made. I'v done minor changes to the head 3D model. Very eager too see how first pair of head will assemble & work at test engine. I havent yet tried the solidworks flowXpress allthough..
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Boolean Samba Member
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Posted: Wed May 14, 2014 7:18 pm Post subject: |
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Please keep us informed! If You'll be at either of the Bug Runs in Sweden, maybe we can have a chat! _________________ I strive for perfection. Excellence will not be tolerated!
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-Alex77- Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2014 12:15 pm Post subject: |
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Yes, i will keep you all informed This week before midsummer festival (bright as a day at night here), i will call to the machine shop. I have allready told to the machineshop owner that there is really some interest.
Did some quick flowtest to the newest port model, allthough i havent tried Solidworks FlowSimulation yet, which should give more precise results:
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FreeBug Samba Member
Joined: March 12, 2012 Posts: 4278 Location: deepest, darkest Switzerland
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Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2014 1:04 am Post subject: |
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Hats off tou you, sirs! Inspired work!
I have to wonder, however, why keep the stock valve inclination? Does it help in flow bias? I can't see that being so...
Our vw engines are particularly handicapped by the overall angle the intake has to flow, over 90º.
The porsche 356 has a horizontal intake, which lessens the blow by 9º, but they still use carbs, which have to be horizontal... throttle bodies could be set at the angle of the manifold air flow...
If the 356 can live with the oil-control issues of a horizontal intake, so could a hi-po vw, and I'm pretty sure the valve geometry issues could be solved with appropriately designed rockers.
This may be more of a hassle than it's worth in a design held back by pushrod technology, but I still wonder why nobody sems to care about this...or maybe I'm completely wrong...but I do know it's desirable to keep the angle between the valve and the airflow as low as possible, within limits. But vw packaging...eh,... |
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-Alex77- Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2014 12:09 am Post subject: |
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Unfortunately i havent got any contact to the manufacturer at this summer. But i wait at least one month before making new calls. _________________ Lasercut parts and CAD design |
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-Alex77- Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2014 11:28 am Post subject: |
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Might get 92/94/101.6 bore heads with different ports sizes from other manufacturer. Also can do flowtest with different valves.
Price for two pair heads would 2350€, and for four pair of heads 2150€. At this point i dont yet earn any money and i have to pay taxes too =)
But the price for heads will drop eventually.
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Anvil Samba Member
Joined: September 28, 2009 Posts: 248 Location: Golden, Colorado
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Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2014 11:52 am Post subject: |
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After having a rocker shaft separate from a head this weekend due to a failed stud, I'd go with the 5-bolt. Less than 250-miles on this all new assembly.
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-Alex77- Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2014 12:10 pm Post subject: |
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Yes, 5-stud option like JPM is quite easy to do and included are 5 threaded holes. _________________ Lasercut parts and CAD design |
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mark tucker Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2014 6:56 pm Post subject: |
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I think bringing the intake ports togeather with only about 3mm between themat the intake flange so the port aims more toward the valve and center of the cylinder may flow better and make more power. but like I said befor keep up the great work. |
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modok Samba Member
Joined: October 30, 2009 Posts: 26785 Location: Colorado Springs
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Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2014 11:33 pm Post subject: |
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yeah I told him but he doesn't listen |
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