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jayster
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Location: norway
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 Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2014 1:33 pm Post subject: up to which year motor can i fitted in my oval? |
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| Thinking i might put another motor in my oval...det think i will be alle to get hold of a 56 motor so am Just wondering up to which year can i put in the old bug.Thanx again. |
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bdub475
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Location: Los Lunas, New Mexico
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| Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2014 3:36 pm Post subject: |
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| 1960 was the last year for the 36hp in the USA. Any type 1 engine will fit with a little clearance work for the larger flywheel. The gearing in a split case 56 trans will be way too low for a 1500-1600 based engine. |
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ZENVWDRIVER
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Joined: November 07, 2008
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Location: N.E. Oklahoma
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| Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2014 6:44 pm Post subject: engine |
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I put a 1961 stale air 40 horse in my '54...fit was a little tighter and the fire wall had to be cut a little for the top of the heater tubes to wiggle in...
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8/50, gray 11A Beetle
6/52, pastel green 11C - SOLD
11/4/52, black Zwitter - SOLD to my little bro.
1954 Porsche, pre A, with VW 36 horse- SOLD
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2/55 Iceland green Beetle, on a 1965 pan
3/55 113 Beetle, stratos silver
1955 Messerschmitt KR175 - SOLD, sadly
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Snort
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Location: Seattle, WA
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| Posted: Sat Sep 27, 2014 8:31 am Post subject: Re: engine |
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| For future reference, remove the heat exchangers before fitting the motor, then reinstall them. No cutting required. People running 40hp and later motors might notice the front tin fits higher on that part of the body than the 36hp does. I've seen some people go so far as to remove that piece of metal and replace it with the later style which is reshaped to fit the taller front tin. |
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Kjell Roar
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Location: Norway
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| Posted: Sat Sep 27, 2014 11:46 am Post subject: |
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| 1960 was the last year for the 36hp in the USA. Any type 1 engine will fit with a little clearance work for the larger flywheel. The gearing in a split case 56 trans will be way too low for a 1500-1600 based engine. |
The gearing in The split case is not that bad for a 1500 or 1600, a 40 hp gearbox is worse, since it run om higher rews. But The split case dont handle much extra power before breakdown.
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ZENVWDRIVER
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Joined: November 07, 2008
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Location: N.E. Oklahoma
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| Posted: Sat Sep 27, 2014 6:06 pm Post subject: |
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| Kjell Roar wrote: |
| bdub475 wrote: |
| 1960 was the last year for the 36hp in the USA. Any type 1 engine will fit with a little clearance work for the larger flywheel. The gearing in a split case 56 trans will be way too low for a 1500-1600 based engine. |
The gearing in The split case is not that bad for a 1500 or 1600, a 40 hp gearbox is worse, since it run om higher rews. But The split case dont handle much extra power before breakdown. |
...ran a stale air 40 horse in a '50 11G with full crash box for a decade and the guy after me for another decade, until he put another 25 horse back in.
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5/50, pastel green 11G - SOLD
8/50, gray 11A Beetle
6/52, pastel green 11C - SOLD
11/4/52, black Zwitter - SOLD to my little bro.
1954 Porsche, pre A, with VW 36 horse- SOLD
1/54, black 11C Beetle - TRADED
2/55 Iceland green Beetle, on a 1965 pan
3/55 113 Beetle, stratos silver
1955 Messerschmitt KR175 - SOLD, sadly
1960 single cab
1962 SO33, with SO 42 interior
9/63 Pacific blue, Ghia
'87 Toyota MR2
'02 WestFORDia E-150, GAVE TO OUR SON
All super-heroes, wear a MASK |
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ZENVWDRIVER
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Joined: November 07, 2008
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Location: N.E. Oklahoma
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| Posted: Sat Sep 27, 2014 6:08 pm Post subject: Re: engine |
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| Snort wrote: |
| For future reference, remove the heat exchangers before fitting the motor, then reinstall them. No cutting required. People running 40hp and later motors might notice the front tin fits higher on that part of the body than the 36hp does. I've seen some people go so far as to remove that piece of metal and replace it with the later style which is reshaped to fit the taller front tin. |
...never thought of that, but will from now on...thanx!
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5/50, pastel green 11G - SOLD
8/50, gray 11A Beetle
6/52, pastel green 11C - SOLD
11/4/52, black Zwitter - SOLD to my little bro.
1954 Porsche, pre A, with VW 36 horse- SOLD
1/54, black 11C Beetle - TRADED
2/55 Iceland green Beetle, on a 1965 pan
3/55 113 Beetle, stratos silver
1955 Messerschmitt KR175 - SOLD, sadly
1960 single cab
1962 SO33, with SO 42 interior
9/63 Pacific blue, Ghia
'87 Toyota MR2
'02 WestFORDia E-150, GAVE TO OUR SON
All super-heroes, wear a MASK |
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