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PostPosted: Mon Sep 15, 2014 3:56 pm    Post subject: 6 volt or a 12 volt? Reply with quote

ok s ive been looking at my generator, regulator and coil and they all say 12 volt on them. but my 9-prong box and 6-prong box (i believe its the dimmer relay) say 6V on them which one should my lights be at??
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:also i should mention my battery is a 6 volt as well
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 15, 2014 4:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yikes!
Does it run with that setup?
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 15, 2014 4:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yes the engine runs really good but my lights are all dim
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 15, 2014 7:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is you car a '66 that was converted to 12 volts at some point and then someone replaced the battery with the wrong one?
Are your light bulbs are 12 volts also?
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 15, 2014 10:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

all the bulbs were 12v and they were all dim so i replaced them with the 6v (i only replaced them with the 6 because the relays say 6v on them) and the 6v lights work great but get hot real fast. the car is a 66' but i am unsure if its been converted to 12v, if its been converted to 12v wouldnt a 12v battery blow my 6v relays?? i have to replace my 9-prong relay anyways should i get a 12 and a 12v dimmer relay?
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 16, 2014 12:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sounds like your '66 was converted to 12 volts and is now partially unconverted!!!!

You have 12 volt coil, generator and regulator already.
You need a 12 volt battery, all light bulbs, and one of these . . . http://www.wolfsburgwest.com/cart/DetailsList.cfm?ID=211953227BWW
Check your wiper motor . . . you might need one of these . . . http://www.wolfsburgwest.com/cart/DetailsList.cfm?ID=113955811B
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 16, 2014 12:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

tr0utmann wrote:
all the bulbs were 12v and they were all dim so i replaced them with the 6v (i only replaced them with the 6 because the relays say 6v on them) and the 6v lights work great but get hot real fast. the car is a 66' but i am unsure if its been converted to 12v, if its been converted to 12v wouldnt a 12v battery blow my 6v relays?? i have to replace my 9-prong relay anyways should i get a 12 and a 12v dimmer relay?


Blown bulbs in 3....2....1....

If the Battery, gen, coil and regulator and bulbs are all 12 volt, your car is 12 volt, simple.
Its probably still got a 6 volt starter which is why its starting with a 6 volt battery but you are lucky the gen hasnt cooked that battery putting 12 volts into it.

Your dull lights would just be the typical bad grounds.

THe old 6 volt relays will work for a while on 12 volts, but ideally should be replaced with 12 volt ones.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 16, 2014 12:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks guys, ill have to get those relays and battery. as for the wiper motor mine only works on the fast setting and is still slow , so im guessing its a 12v
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 16, 2014 10:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can run a 6 volt wiper with 12 volts, BUT you need either a current limiter device or voltage divider resistor in line with the wiper motor to prevent it from burning up on 12 volts. See if there is some device attached to the wiper's wires. the wiper motor should be labeled 12 or 6 volt, but it may not be visible when motor is installed.

Never run a 6 volt wiper on 12 volts without the add on resistor or current limiting device in line.

you may also have a 12 volt wiper installed when the car was converted.

I have run a 6 volt wiper on 12 v (using a current limiter device) for over 30 years in my Bug.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 16, 2014 6:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The 6 volt wiper motors wont burn out on 12 volts but they do run that fast that the blades barely touch the glass and they dont turn off as the brake contacts can't work.

The old trick here in Aus was a coil ballast resistor to drop it back to 9 volts, faster than normal 6 volt but still slow enough that they turn off correctly and wipe the glass properly.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 19, 2014 4:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks for the heads up bluebus and joel
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 20, 2014 8:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ok so i got the 12v headlight relay and the 12v turn relay put in today and now my turns dont work at at all and my headlights are stuck on high-beam.
my emergency flashers dont work at all.
and finally my brake lights are not working anymore either.
i still have the 6v battery in it as well would that be the problem? or
is the turn stalk switch supposed to be 12v too??
or the brake light box??
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 20, 2014 9:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

57BLITZ wrote:
Sounds like your '66 was converted to 12 volts and is now partially unconverted!!!!

You have 12 volt coil, generator and regulator already.
You need a 12 volt battery, all light bulbs, and one of these . . . http://www.wolfsburgwest.com/cart/DetailsList.cfm?ID=211953227BWW
Check your wiper motor . . . you might need one of these . . . http://www.wolfsburgwest.com/cart/DetailsList.cfm?ID=113955811B


the first link is the flasher box i have and my headlight relay is from Wolfsburg as well.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 20, 2014 10:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Joel wrote:
The 6 volt wiper motors wont burn out on 12 volts but they do run that fast that the blades barely touch the glass and they dont turn off as the brake contacts can't work.

The old trick here in Aus was a coil ballast resistor to drop it back to 9 volts, faster than normal 6 volt but still slow enough that they turn off correctly and wipe the glass properly.


Another way is the 4-component current limiter on my site. With a little experimentation with the resistor values you can even get it to run two-speed.
http://www.vw-resource.com/wiper1.html
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