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consvws Samba Member
Joined: April 07, 2009 Posts: 949 Location: Roseburg, OR
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Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2014 8:32 pm Post subject: |
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pistons & electrical work..... no big deal, it's an old Volkswagen. Tell them to fix it, that's half the fun! |
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RPGreg2600 Samba Member
Joined: November 07, 2010 Posts: 1657 Location: Vallejo, CA
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Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2014 8:47 pm Post subject: |
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If you give him any money back, you're a fool. Wash your hands of it and tell him to kick rocks. Buyer beware. |
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cory464 Samba Member
Joined: November 25, 2010 Posts: 659 Location: kokomo in
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Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2014 9:25 pm Post subject: |
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there is pretty much nothing someone can do on an out of state sale. and even an in state deal, the court would likely side with buyer beware. no need to lose any sleep over it. if he pushes it I would ask for detailed photographs of all "issues" and documentation of what repairs are required. chances are he will not bother to provide any. |
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Pacmanfever Samba Member
Joined: January 29, 2013 Posts: 201 Location: Kansas
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Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2014 9:26 pm Post subject: |
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That shop has a vested interest in the bus "having problems" because they get paid to do the repair work, that's hardly an impartial jury. Some of these shops love to lay it on thick too, telling in great detail just how horrible the condition of something is, and how difficult and expensive it is to fix. Oh, and don't forget, SAFETY is at risk if you don't pay them to fix it.
Which is why I always do my own repair work. I feel for you in this situation, and the suggestions to find another reputable shop to look at it, fully understanding the situation at hand, is probably the best advice. Maybe someone on here local to the buyer can recommend a shop in the area? |
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EverettB Administrator
Joined: April 11, 2000 Posts: 69733 Location: Phoenix Metro
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Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2014 9:45 pm Post subject: Re: I need you opinion I SOLD MY BUS and buyer says his mech |
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surf760 wrote: |
I need your opinion I SOLD MY 1967 BUS and buyer says his mechanic states it needs pistons, major oil leak electrical work and so on.
I am told the mechanic states it has a major oil leak, it did drip when it left. The motor needs new pistons and major electrical work, front end missing parts….and so on and so on. I am very bummed as I never had any trouble with this bus driving it several times from San Diego to LA for shows, cruising around town all the time and now this.
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I agree with the advice that vehicle sales are as-is so it's his problem now.
Of course I am assuming you have a signed bill of sale to that fact, to protect you legally.
On the flip side of that, if something was misrepresented, then from a moral standpoint, you are responsible for it.
Addressing the list you made:
So the engine is currently apart? Otherwise how does he know it needs pistons?
What electrical work?
What exact parts are missing from the front end?
I'd be curious to see an image of estimate and listing from the shop of what work is needed. _________________ How to Post Photos
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pyrOman Fire Master
Joined: July 21, 2003 Posts: 12400 Location: Over 2002 posts deleted!
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Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2014 6:45 am Post subject: |
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Glenn wrote: |
Caveat emptor
The buyer should have had a independent shop or person inspect the vehicle before purchase. |
X2! _________________ Some people are so busy being clever they don't have time enough to be wise. |
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Sdmjake Samba Member
Joined: May 01, 2012 Posts: 124 Location: Sandy Springs, GA
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Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2014 7:06 am Post subject: |
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The operable phrase in this situation is "Caveat Emptor" |
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SkooobaSteve Samba Member
Joined: March 23, 2005 Posts: 3152 Location: Dothan Alabama
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Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2014 7:07 am Post subject: |
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IF the shop looking at it does not know vws that is a issue within its self. I know a guy who had low compression and the shop told him he needed a new engine.... So I adjusted the valves and surprise the engine ran like new. Sounds like to me the guy is having buyers remorse and trying to recoup some of his money. If you do decide to help him out DO NOT let him pick the shop. Instead do your research and find a vw shop in the area, call them, talk to them, and then set up a inspection date. _________________ Jonathan
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http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=391061 |
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westcoastbullies Samba Member
Joined: July 02, 2002 Posts: 302 Location: DIABLOS SHADOW
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Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2014 7:16 am Post subject: |
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Old Paint wrote: |
Sounds like some guy who thinks "VW Vans are Nifty", decided to buy one. |
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Red Fau Veh Samba Member
Joined: September 07, 2012 Posts: 3037 Location: Prescott Az.
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Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2014 7:27 am Post subject: |
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How much was the bus? _________________ 1971 Deluxe Sunroof Bay 1905 stroker, dual idf40's, 74mm Scat forged crank, engle 110 cam. CB 044 heads, AutoCraft rockers, chromoly push rods
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UK_Monkey Samba Member
Joined: November 09, 2005 Posts: 362 Location: Home of the British Formula1 Grand Prix
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Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2014 9:25 am Post subject: |
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Glenn wrote: |
Caveat emptor
The buyer should of had a independent shop or person inspect the vehicle before purchase. |
This! Buyer beware. _________________ MonkeyDubs!
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EverettB Administrator
Joined: April 11, 2000 Posts: 69733 Location: Phoenix Metro
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DubStyle SBS Hit Squad
Joined: July 26, 2003 Posts: 6250 Location: SBS headquarters: Missery
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Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2014 10:38 am Post subject: |
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No matter what you do, someone is going to complain. AS-IS on used vehicles unless you promised in writing to warantee the bus for defects. _________________ Anthony
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crofty Judas of the North
Joined: August 09, 2000 Posts: 19670 Location: Land of Whine and Phonies
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Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2014 12:26 pm Post subject: |
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RPGreg2600 wrote: |
If you give him any money back, you're a fool. Wash your hands of it and tell him to kick rocks. Buyer beware. |
Even offering could be seen as an admittance of guilt. _________________ Your Vanagon sucks, Stop waving at me.
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mandraks Samba Member
Joined: November 28, 2004 Posts: 7045 Location: Lawrenceville, Ga
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Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2014 1:06 pm Post subject: |
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so this guy come into my shop, says he bought a 50 year old vw bus, site unseen on the internet .... now he says, it has an oil leak.... says I: well what we have here is a HUUUGE problem. to fix that oil leak on a 50 year old bus you have to take it apart ... by the time i add up labor just to get it in and out, splitting it open to seal it, might as well replace the pistons, and liners, it is 50 years old, right? suckers born every day says i _________________ regards
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Spezialist Banned
Joined: July 01, 2005 Posts: 1941
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Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2014 1:34 pm Post subject: |
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EverettB wrote: |
Red Fau Veh wrote: |
How much was the bus? |
From Page 1
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surf760 wrote: |
FYI car did not sell near the asking price ( not that it matters) |
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I also said in my first post on this subject, Tell the guy to get a second opinion.
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From that departure you would be able to guage where the problem is.
Not that it is technically the sellers problem, but this is the sellers headache thread.
I know the quickest way to relieve a headache is to clear the air for awhile.
A second opinion conversatiin would open up the rationality factor of the buyer. _________________
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rebapuck Samba Member
Joined: May 17, 2007 Posts: 1023 Location: Chapel Hill NC
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Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2014 1:34 pm Post subject: |
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Tell the buyer the bus is just marking his new spot. _________________ Judy
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klcarrie Samba Member
Joined: March 28, 2012 Posts: 288 Location: 'berta!
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Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2014 1:37 pm Post subject: |
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You live in the USA, right?
Though caveat emptor normally applies, if the vehicle sold for a substantial price to a buyer sight-unseen, one might also include the statement: caveat venditor (seller beware), and be pro-actively litigious; that is if one can afford to be.
I think the advice by hitest is best. _________________ Pritchin'
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alijonny Samba Member
Joined: November 01, 2007 Posts: 328 Location: Des Plaines, IL
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Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2014 2:48 pm Post subject: |
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If the new owner would like a second professional opinion, I work at a shop that specializes in aircooled VW/Porsche. We would be glad to have a closer unbiased second opinion if he is interested in bringing it to Chicago...
Midwest Performance Cars
1385 W. Lake street
Chicago, IL 60607
(312) 432-9492
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otahuhu Samba Member
Joined: July 15, 2007 Posts: 561
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Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2014 3:38 pm Post subject: |
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If you "street view" that address there are a few bugs, ghias, t3s,t25s and a Skoda/Renault. No signage anywhere that you can see . If its a legit shop they must have a number you can contact them on to discuss you're issues. If you are worried ask the buyer for their number?
In this country (not sure about the USA) the test for most legal issues especially in regards to contract law is "reasonability", keep this in mind, if you are honest and transparent you have little to fear... |
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