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PostPosted: Fri Mar 14, 2014 2:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 22, 2014 5:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
It has been a crazy day yesterday and today. Mostly because of the measurements and dogleg welding on. Finally got things going and here are some pics!
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Nice gap but it will need some adjustments to make it look better.
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Here are one of the reasons why the measurements were messing me up. My plan is to hammer the corner just enough for the window frame to clear as i close the door til i can get back to metal works.
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This is just the outer dogleg welded on. I felt that doing one piece at a time would be the best way to go instead of welding the 2 piece dogleg together then fit.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 23, 2014 9:54 am    Post subject: dogleg Reply with quote
I am with you; outer dogleg first then the inner. I may finish part three of my dogleg video today. Getting all those photos up here is a chore but we all love to see.

On the upper b pillar I think you will have to cut it open to get it straight then weld it back together.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 23, 2014 10:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Thanks, actually your part 1 video helped me with the dogleg and making the hole on top. I owe it to you. Pillar b will be an challenge for me but I'm hoping just to get the pillar/dogleg done is I can drive my bus. Once I feel ready to tackle this issue again it will be done. I do have a nice pillar b I got from a donor bus I cut up few years ago.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 24, 2014 8:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
A question appears in my head about the dogleg. If you look at the third pic I recently posted, on the very top of dogleg is a very nasty bow that makes the gap big. How can I fix the bow back to straight gap so that it won't bug me later on?
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 05, 2014 7:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Ok other update. Continuing on with the dogleg. Pushing, pulling again to adjust the gap. Bad news the door and dogleg wouldn't match the curve... What i had to do was cut the pillar off and bring it down 1/8'' reweld it up. A lot better. I also finally got the inner dogleg welded on but not fully. Im very very close to getting this part done!! Pics... also i got a new door....
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Once the inner dogleg is fully welded on i can finally move on to the floor then weld the pillar and dogleg,headlight support, floor all together then last part will be the nose.
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PostPosted: Sat May 03, 2014 7:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
ok some updates. I have been working on the floor and came across some issues but however i believe i got it fixed up. Ill show you pics of what issues i had with the floor
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As you can see the gap between the headlight support
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in order to make the floor to fit i have to adjust the corner to get the floor to touch the headlight support which has been done now. I will post pics once it is welded on
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received the nose from Wolfsburg. Very nice quality, it will do just fine fixing up the bus' nose.
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The pillar is finally welded on the valance.
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Dogleg is a little bit of an issue because it's about 1/8" from the pillar on the bottom so I think I'll try to pull it in about 1/16" because I don't want to stretch the metal too much. I have measured and compared the drivers side, everything is spot on.
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also got bumper bracket along with the nose
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Hopefully soon ill weld the dogleg then the last piece is the floor.
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PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2014 7:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Almost there.... welded the dogleg to the pillar and fixed up the wheel well. May as well show some accessories i got. Cup holder and shifter extension
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PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2014 9:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Good progress. Those plug welds in the very corners are hard to grind. You're not kneeling in the snow anymore!
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PostPosted: Sat May 17, 2014 12:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Man,you are one determined Dude. excellent work.
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PostPosted: Sat May 17, 2014 3:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Thank you guys, it drives me crazy to not be able to drive this bus but it has to be done. Brick wall it will be worth it to have a passenger side door working again.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 21, 2014 10:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Finally progress... Very slow but I'm trying to get her done before winter. Mostly grinding, welding to get things to look nice and to avoid using any fillers.
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My favorite pic of all.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 21, 2014 10:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Excellent! Nothing a little grinding won't make look better. Great picture of the glowing work lights/
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 21, 2014 10:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
You're doing a nice, complete job. You may consider removing the headlight bucket in order to metal finish the nose once it's welded in place. The bucket can be welded back in with no distortion or visible welds once the nose is cleaned up.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 21, 2014 10:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Thanks, nice to know I'm going in the right direction. I will use the headlight bucket as guidance fitting the metal then tack in place then remove it.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 04, 2014 5:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Good progress. Those plug welds in the very corners are hard to grind. You're not kneeling in the snow anymore!
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how do you grind welds in the corners? I've been struggling with this on quite a few locations where I'm trying to weld in patches.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 04, 2014 9:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Buy a dremel rotary tool. Has so many grinding attachments and it works great for me.
www.dremel.com/en-us/Accessories/Pages/SubCategories.aspx?catid=2026
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 08, 2014 8:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
time for updates
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headlight support welded on.
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shrunk the metal using the disc. It works really good.
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clecos holding the floor in place.
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loor fitted and ready to go.
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before welding on the floor i needed to do some rust treatments then painted primer.
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screws holding the floor and the headlight support tight together.
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finally welded in place.
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other side of floor pan welded to the dogleg.
Almost there. Just need more welding to the floor then i can work on the valance and the nose. Hoping to finish her up before snow comes.
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BDSBSS23 wrote:
Buy a dremel rotary tool. Has so many grinding attachments and it works great for me.
www.dremel.com/en-us/Accessories/Pages/SubCategories.aspx?catid=2026


X2. And lots of cutting (dremel) wheels. Nice job btw. I know this is time consuming work but once it's behind you... Soooo rewarding!
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Looks pretty good! I am glad to see that I am not the only one who had fitment issues with the WW floor. Are you planning to use the entire lower nose panel or just the part you cut out? I'm curious about how it fits vs. Gerson's panel.
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