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Hamsterben
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That is a beautiful sight.
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MaximumFinishes
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Got the engine pulled! It's always nice to see progress. Now to disconnect the brakes and cut the remaining body/front beam bolt. The lower one on the drivers side:
right next to the jack stand, is PITA cuz the beam has been smooshed up into it and now I can't get a socket or wrench on it. Guess the only option is to cut it, right?
Also, front beam is majorly dented. Are new ones available or do I have to salvage one?
Thanks guys,
Max
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MaximumFinishes
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Nevermind:
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=1495551
I forgot everything anyone could ever need is already here somewhere.
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Im watching 
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MaximumFinishes
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It's slow progress, but it's progress all the same...
Here's a pic of my "engine stand"...
in action...
Still haven't cut the front bolts off yet. Man, it'll be nice to have the body off.
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Stuartzickefoose
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That bucket dolly makes my think of a lazy boy toilet..... know what i mean? Engine can rest and its okay if it takes a leak now and then, right into the bucket!
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MaximumFinishes
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Finally got the pan dropped!
At least what's left of it. I had to cut the seats out as the door side guide was rust welded in place.
Working on getting the body completely stripped. I've been removing the wiring with blatent disregard as I'm planning on a new wiring harness. Is this unwise? Also, what is this cable?
This lil truck sure is taking up a lot of space in the garage. 
It even spreads into the "parts shed".
My feelings of accomplishment are hampered by the daunting task still ahead of me, but I won't be deterred. This truck WILL be finished by the time my son graduates high school. That's only 8 years away, but I think I can do it. 
Oh ya, some of my engine tin screws refuse to budge despite all my soaking and persuading. I don't see how I cut em off without damaging the tin. Any suggestions?
Thanks all,
Max
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bad1916
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Great work! I believe that cable is what's left of the seat back release.it should go from a lever at the pillar to the underside of the seat frame.
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Mike Fisher
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You will need a Dremel grinder for tight spots on these cars. The body doesn't look bad! Just need a fresh chassis to roll back underneath the body!
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65Nsqback
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Look as if the car was Originally Nutria and maybe even a two tone with a white roof ?
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MonT3
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Congrats on your progress. As for the wire harness, if you plan on getting a new one, try to remove what you have as completely as you can as someone else may need a section or pieces. Some folks may run into an engine bay fire and need the rear section to splice in. Happened to me a while back. just a thought.
Once you clean the rusted pieces off the pan/tunnel area, you'll have a good start point to get it back together. When I started on my rebuild I was told to have a plan, set milestones, etc. I've been sticking with it regardless of the setbacks or challenges faced. I think you'll have this truck completed well within 8yrs though. 
Will be watching this post as your build progresses. One last thing, please be safe while working inside the shell. Are the 2x4s set in place temporary?
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ibjack
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A word of caution, over the years we have seen too many projects start out in grand fashion only to have the interest get lost on the giant tasks that it takes to redo these cars. It's really easy to strip these cars down but the amount of money that it takes to put them together plus the time and limited availability of parts can create a stand still. (Pedro and I figured out that for his project T34 it's going to cost $425 per wheel to get it where he wants to be and that's for a stock set up) I would say save everything that is or could be reused or even might be able to be reused until after the car is finished. Never tear apart anything un less you know tat parts are available to put it together again. Asks lots of questions, we are here to help you and support you FINISHING your project. Best of luck and you can do this.
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Bobnotch
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| A word of caution, over the years we have seen too many projects start out in grand fashion only to have the interest get lost on the giant tasks that it takes to redo these cars. It's really easy to strip these cars down but the amount of money that it takes to put them together plus the time and limited availability of parts can create a stand still. (Pedro and I figured out that for his project T34 it's going to cost $425 per wheel to get it where he wants to be and that's for a stock set up) I would say save everything that is or could be reused or even might be able to be reused until after the car is finished. Never tear apart anything un less you know tat parts are available to put it together again. Asks lots of questions, we are here to help you and support you FINISHING your project. Best of luck and you can do this. |
And to expand on what Jack is saying, don't throw anything away, until after the new part is installed and working. With the quality of some parts these days, the older ones might be able to be refurbished and re-used (better quality parts). Just a heads up.
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MaximumFinishes
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Congrats on your progress. As for the wire harness, if you plan on getting a new one, try to remove what you have as completely as you can as someone else may need a section or pieces. Some folks may run into an engine bay fire and need the rear section to splice in. Happened to me a while back. just a thought.
Once you clean the rusted pieces off the pan/tunnel area, you'll have a good start point to get it back together. When I started on my rebuild I was told to have a plan, set milestones, etc. I've been sticking with it regardless of the setbacks or challenges faced. I think you'll have this truck completed well within 8yrs though.
Will be watching this post as your build progresses. One last thing, please be safe while working inside the shell. Are the 2x4s set in place temporary? |
Thanks Mont3. I figured I would keep things like the light cluster thingy and any other larger electrical components, and based on your advice I will try to keep as much of the wiring intact as possible. I don't know how I'm gonna pull all those wires through the drivers side floor channel area though.  I do know I can't pull this through...
I'm definitely setting milestones. Easily attainable ones for now. I also do have a rough plan. For now it's to get the body bare and assess exactly how much welding etc. there is to do. That's the most daunting part of this whole thing for me...
but I ain't shook. I'm just gonna take my time and glean as much as I can from y'all. The rot in the front corner seems to be the most difficult part. The fenders will be tricky as well. I like Mike's idea of rolling a fresh chassis under it.  I also need to remove that ghastly rear "window" area...
Note the mascot...
And yes, the 2x4s are just until I can shift it over to some stands. Possibly sawhorses?
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MaximumFinishes
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| A word of caution, over the years we have seen too many projects start out in grand fashion only to have the interest get lost on the giant tasks that it takes to redo these cars. It's really easy to strip these cars down but the amount of money that it takes to put them together plus the time and limited availability of parts can create a stand still. (Pedro and I figured out that for his project T34 it's going to cost $425 per wheel to get it where he wants to be and that's for a stock set up) I would say save everything that is or could be reused or even might be able to be reused until after the car is finished. Never tear apart anything un less you know tat parts are available to put it together again. Asks lots of questions, we are here to help you and support you FINISHING your project. Best of luck and you can do this. |
Thanks Jack. I realize I'm still in the "easy" stage, and sometimes I look at Frank and think "what have I gotten myself into". But again, I ain't shook. I know I can get it done within my timeframe.
What kind of things should I not be tearing apart? My plans are to strip everything bare and start from naked. I'm keeping everything in the "parts shed" and even labeling lil baggies of nuts and bolts. What are some of the things that need to never be discarded EVER?
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MonT3
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Remove the fuse box from the wiring and do what you can with it. I have to say you have some work ahead of you with that back-end. Could be easily replaced if you had a donor shell to take from. But as you mentioned assess where you are what you have to do. Ask questions. I have some pics on my thread on how I went about replacing pieces in the cargo area. If you had a good donor, you could replace your rear area as a whole. It'll save time and possibly some $$ in finding pieces.
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Bobnotch
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Congrats on your progress. As for the wire harness, if you plan on getting a new one, try to remove what you have as completely as you can as someone else may need a section or pieces. Some folks may run into an engine bay fire and need the rear section to splice in. Happened to me a while back. just a thought.
Once you clean the rusted pieces off the pan/tunnel area, you'll have a good start point to get it back together. When I started on my rebuild I was told to have a plan, set milestones, etc. I've been sticking with it regardless of the setbacks or challenges faced. I think you'll have this truck completed well within 8yrs though.
Will be watching this post as your build progresses. One last thing, please be safe while working inside the shell. Are the 2x4s set in place temporary? |
Thanks Mont3. I figured I would keep things like the light cluster thingy and any other larger electrical components, and based on your advice I will try to keep as much of the wiring intact as possible. I don't know how I'm gonna pull all those wires through the drivers side floor channel area though. I do know I can't pull this through...
I'm definitely setting milestones. Easily attainable ones for now. I also do have a rough plan. For now it's to get the body bare and assess exactly how much welding etc. there is to do. That's the most daunting part of this whole thing for me...
but I ain't shook. I'm just gonna take my time and glean as much as I can from y'all. The rot in the front corner seems to be the most difficult part. The fenders will be tricky as well. I like Mike's idea of rolling a fresh chassis under it. I also need to remove that ghastly rear "window" area...
Note the mascot...
And yes, the 2x4s are just until I can shift it over to some stands. Possibly sawhorses? |
If you seperate the front wires from the fuse box, that entire harness can go out thru the front trunk.
As for the rest of the wires running inside the rocker, you're on your own.
And YES, I've seen worse rust.
It's ALL fixable.
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64 T-34 Ghia...aka Wolfie, under construction... http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=412120
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Mike Fisher
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I leave short pigtail wires on the fusebox,switches,relays to make them easier to rewire.  I would buy the Gerson pans first since the chassis is a big job all by itself.
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Bobnotch
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| I leave short pigtail wires on the fusebox,switches,relays to make them easier to rewire. I would buy the Gerson pans first since the chassis is a big job all by itself. |
Maybe (and that's a big maybe) if I was just replacing the rear harness. But, you're assuming that the fuse box is wired correctly. Remember, the number 1 hack of PO's IS the wiring.  Personally, I'd pull up the wiring diagram for the year (from the technical page above right corner), and go off it. That'll allow you to clean ALL of the terminals on the fuse box, by soaking it in something. Do a search for that, as there are some good ideas on products that work.
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http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=249390 -been busy working
64 T-34 Ghia...aka Wolfie, under construction... http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=412120
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