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PostPosted: Thu Oct 02, 2014 10:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Are you ready for me to bring my car over now?


I was ready a few years back!! Laughing

Let's talk seriously about this come spring. I have a very major 230SL project and a bunch of other big stuff still in the queue, plus I guess Bayboy is finally getting motivated to grease my palm on the long dormant 34 Cabrio project. I had planned to tool along on that alongside everything else anyways, but unfortunately I've needed to focus on jobs that pay the bills (having health issues in America ain't cheap- even with insurance!!) rather than "fun" stuff- and that includes my own projects that I have moved to the back of the line behind you and Jason even.

Nothing is going to be "fast" here as I still have a lot of catch up and I'm still not even really 75% after prostate surgery yet. What I have learned, though, is that everybody has a complaint... and if the complaint is "you took too long" and that only, I am resignedly happy with that.

I'm just not the firebrand invincible maniac that I was five, six years ago. I have to keep things reasonable for the slight handicaps I need to work with now. If I re-injure the old back thing again I will have no choice but fusion, which can't possibly be all that great of a thing given all the up, down, and fetal positions under dashes that i need to assume to do what I need to do.

The Disciple is a great help, and we've worked together so long off and on over the last decade plus that he instinctively understands how I want things done- and that is extremely valuable. He's really stepped up and saved my ass here through all my adventures involving cutting of flesh the last few years. But he's a "freelancer" who basically does his own mechanical biz thing involving junk that I'm too snooty to touch- American, Japanese, Korean, late model voodoo shit- and also a LPN (which is why I refer to him as "Nurse Ratchet" at times) so there are real limitations there too.

It is what it is. This is, after all, why God invented booze and narcotics. Very Happy
Sure, when I'm actually ready to bring it over, you come up with good excuses.

I'll have to figure out what to do with it this winter. I need the space in my barn for the wife and kids rabbits. They are the ones who wanted them, but guess who gets to take care of them. Same with the chickens and goats. Cows are next on their list. I'm going to have to get a full time job so I can get away from all of it.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 02, 2014 10:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

notchback wrote:
Tram wrote:
notchback wrote:
Are you ready for me to bring my car over now?


I was ready a few years back!! Laughing

Let's talk seriously about this come spring. I have a very major 230SL project and a bunch of other big stuff still in the queue, plus I guess Bayboy is finally getting motivated to grease my palm on the long dormant 34 Cabrio project. I had planned to tool along on that alongside everything else anyways, but unfortunately I've needed to focus on jobs that pay the bills (having health issues in America ain't cheap- even with insurance!!) rather than "fun" stuff- and that includes my own projects that I have moved to the back of the line behind you and Jason even.

Nothing is going to be "fast" here as I still have a lot of catch up and I'm still not even really 75% after prostate surgery yet. What I have learned, though, is that everybody has a complaint... and if the complaint is "you took too long" and that only, I am resignedly happy with that.

I'm just not the firebrand invincible maniac that I was five, six years ago. I have to keep things reasonable for the slight handicaps I need to work with now. If I re-injure the old back thing again I will have no choice but fusion, which can't possibly be all that great of a thing given all the up, down, and fetal positions under dashes that i need to assume to do what I need to do.

The Disciple is a great help, and we've worked together so long off and on over the last decade plus that he instinctively understands how I want things done- and that is extremely valuable. He's really stepped up and saved my ass here through all my adventures involving cutting of flesh the last few years. But he's a "freelancer" who basically does his own mechanical biz thing involving junk that I'm too snooty to touch- American, Japanese, Korean, late model voodoo shit- and also a LPN (which is why I refer to him as "Nurse Ratchet" at times) so there are real limitations there too.

It is what it is. This is, after all, why God invented booze and narcotics. Very Happy
Sure, when I'm actually ready to bring it over, you come up with good excuses.

I'll have to figure out what to do with it this winter. I need the space in my barn for the wife and kids rabbits. They are the ones who wanted them, but guess who gets to take care of them. Same with the chickens and goats. Cows are next on their list. I'm going to have to get a full time job so I can get away from all of it.


Why are you putting your wife in the barn with the kids rabbits? Problems at home?
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 02, 2014 10:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think he said he needs to make room for them. Pending troubles in the household. I have a girl here in the office, she has her rabbits in an apartment. They just had a litter of babies. I guess keeping them all in the same space will do that Laughing
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Rabbits with Kids and kids and Cows? Madness I say, M A D N E S S ! ! !
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 02, 2014 8:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

notchback wrote:
Tram wrote:
notchback wrote:
Are you ready for me to bring my car over now?


I was ready a few years back!! Laughing

Let's talk seriously about this come spring. I have a very major 230SL project and a bunch of other big stuff still in the queue, plus I guess Bayboy is finally getting motivated to grease my palm on the long dormant 34 Cabrio project. I had planned to tool along on that alongside everything else anyways, but unfortunately I've needed to focus on jobs that pay the bills (having health issues in America ain't cheap- even with insurance!!) rather than "fun" stuff- and that includes my own projects that I have moved to the back of the line behind you and Jason even.

Nothing is going to be "fast" here as I still have a lot of catch up and I'm still not even really 75% after prostate surgery yet. What I have learned, though, is that everybody has a complaint... and if the complaint is "you took too long" and that only, I am resignedly happy with that.

I'm just not the firebrand invincible maniac that I was five, six years ago. I have to keep things reasonable for the slight handicaps I need to work with now. If I re-injure the old back thing again I will have no choice but fusion, which can't possibly be all that great of a thing given all the up, down, and fetal positions under dashes that i need to assume to do what I need to do.

The Disciple is a great help, and we've worked together so long off and on over the last decade plus that he instinctively understands how I want things done- and that is extremely valuable. He's really stepped up and saved my ass here through all my adventures involving cutting of flesh the last few years. But he's a "freelancer" who basically does his own mechanical biz thing involving junk that I'm too snooty to touch- American, Japanese, Korean, late model voodoo shit- and also a LPN (which is why I refer to him as "Nurse Ratchet" at times) so there are real limitations there too.

It is what it is. This is, after all, why God invented booze and narcotics. Very Happy
Sure, when I'm actually ready to bring it over, you come up with good excuses.

I'll have to figure out what to do with it this winter. I need the space in my barn for the wife and kids rabbits. They are the ones who wanted them, but guess who gets to take care of them. Same with the chickens and goats. Cows are next on their list. I'm going to have to get a full time job so I can get away from all of it.


why you trying to get away from it?

I've done exactly the opposite, got away from work so I can spend more time on the farm and look after the animals. It the best way of life I reckon.

you should enjoy it, get those cows you been meaning to get. Wink
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 02, 2014 8:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tram wrote:
notchback wrote:
Are you ready for me to bring my car over now?


I was ready a few years back!! Laughing

Let's talk seriously about this come spring. I have a very major 230SL project and a bunch of other big stuff still in the queue, plus I guess Bayboy is finally getting motivated to grease my palm on the long dormant 34 Cabrio project. I had planned to tool along on that alongside everything else anyways, but unfortunately I've needed to focus on jobs that pay the bills (having health issues in America ain't cheap- even with insurance!!) rather than "fun" stuff- and that includes my own projects that I have moved to the back of the line behind you and Jason even.

Nothing is going to be "fast" here as I still have a lot of catch up and I'm still not even really 75% after prostate surgery yet. What I have learned, though, is that everybody has a complaint... and if the complaint is "you took too long" and that only, I am resignedly happy with that.

I'm just not the firebrand invincible maniac that I was five, six years ago. I have to keep things reasonable for the slight handicaps I need to work with now. If I re-injure the old back thing again I will have no choice but fusion, which can't possibly be all that great of a thing given all the up, down, and fetal positions under dashes that i need to assume to do what I need to do.

The Disciple is a great help, and we've worked together so long off and on over the last decade plus that he instinctively understands how I want things done- and that is extremely valuable. He's really stepped up and saved my ass here through all my adventures involving cutting of flesh the last few years. But he's a "freelancer" who basically does his own mechanical biz thing involving junk that I'm too snooty to touch- American, Japanese, Korean, late model voodoo shit- and also a LPN (which is why I refer to him as "Nurse Ratchet" at times) so there are real limitations there too.

It is what it is. This is, after all, why God invented booze and narcotics. Very Happy


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Tram wrote:
notchback wrote:
Are you ready for me to bring my car over now?


I was ready a few years back!! Laughing

Let's talk seriously about this come spring. I have a very major 230SL project and a bunch of other big stuff still in the queue, plus I guess Bayboy is finally getting motivated to grease my palm on the long dormant 34 Cabrio project. I had planned to tool along on that alongside everything else anyways, but unfortunately I've needed to focus on jobs that pay the bills (having health issues in America ain't cheap- even with insurance!!) rather than "fun" stuff- and that includes my own projects that I have moved to the back of the line behind you and Jason even.

Nothing is going to be "fast" here as I still have a lot of catch up and I'm still not even really 75% after prostate surgery yet. What I have learned, though, is that everybody has a complaint... and if the complaint is "you took too long" and that only, I am resignedly happy with that.

I'm just not the firebrand invincible maniac that I was five, six years ago. I have to keep things reasonable for the slight handicaps I need to work with now. If I re-injure the old back thing again I will have no choice but fusion, which can't possibly be all that great of a thing given all the up, down, and fetal positions under dashes that i need to assume to do what I need to do.

The Disciple is a great help, and we've worked together so long off and on over the last decade plus that he instinctively understands how I want things done- and that is extremely valuable. He's really stepped up and saved my ass here through all my adventures involving cutting of flesh the last few years. But he's a "freelancer" who basically does his own mechanical biz thing involving junk that I'm too snooty to touch- American, Japanese, Korean, late model voodoo shit- and also a LPN (which is why I refer to him as "Nurse Ratchet" at times) so there are real limitations there too.

It is what it is. This is, after all, why God invented booze and narcotics. Very Happy


Do you want to build two cabrios side by side? I have a '63 that's just sitting in my driveway. Twisted Evil Plus some cash Cool Cool Cool Cool Cool


Let me make all the mistakes on BayBoy's, then we can talk. Laughing
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 03, 2014 1:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tram wrote:
ALLWAGONS wrote:
Tram wrote:
notchback wrote:
Are you ready for me to bring my car over now?


I was ready a few years back!! Laughing

Let's talk seriously about this come spring. I have a very major 230SL project and a bunch of other big stuff still in the queue, plus I guess Bayboy is finally getting motivated to grease my palm on the long dormant 34 Cabrio project. I had planned to tool along on that alongside everything else anyways, but unfortunately I've needed to focus on jobs that pay the bills (having health issues in America ain't cheap- even with insurance!!) rather than "fun" stuff- and that includes my own projects that I have moved to the back of the line behind you and Jason even.

Nothing is going to be "fast" here as I still have a lot of catch up and I'm still not even really 75% after prostate surgery yet. What I have learned, though, is that everybody has a complaint... and if the complaint is "you took too long" and that only, I am resignedly happy with that.

I'm just not the firebrand invincible maniac that I was five, six years ago. I have to keep things reasonable for the slight handicaps I need to work with now. If I re-injure the old back thing again I will have no choice but fusion, which can't possibly be all that great of a thing given all the up, down, and fetal positions under dashes that i need to assume to do what I need to do.

The Disciple is a great help, and we've worked together so long off and on over the last decade plus that he instinctively understands how I want things done- and that is extremely valuable. He's really stepped up and saved my ass here through all my adventures involving cutting of flesh the last few years. But he's a "freelancer" who basically does his own mechanical biz thing involving junk that I'm too snooty to touch- American, Japanese, Korean, late model voodoo shit- and also a LPN (which is why I refer to him as "Nurse Ratchet" at times) so there are real limitations there too.

It is what it is. This is, after all, why God invented booze and narcotics. Very Happy


Do you want to build two cabrios side by side? I have a '63 that's just sitting in my driveway. Twisted Evil Plus some cash Cool Cool Cool Cool Cool


Let me make all the mistakes on BayBoy's, then we can talk. Laughing
wouldn't number 3 be refined by now?
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 03, 2014 9:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Need a new deciple? Wink
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Pick one:

a) Not one who can't spell

b) Be careful what you wish for.
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Pick one:

a) Not one who can't spell

b) Be careful what you wish for.



typed that on a phone...couldnt see what i was typing.

you have no idea....i kinda dont like being a honda tech...id much rather be a aircooled vw FI master ...in training... Razz
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Tram wrote:
Stuartzickefoose wrote:
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Pick one:

a) Not one who can't spell

b) Be careful what you wish for.



typed that on a phone...couldnt see what i was typing.

you have no idea....i kinda dont like being a honda tech...id much rather be a aircooled vw FI master ...in training... Razz


You'll starve, as would I if I only did ACVW. Wink

The upside of being a Honda tech is you'll never starve.
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Tram wrote:
Stuartzickefoose wrote:
Tram wrote:
Stuartzickefoose wrote:
Need a new deciple? Wink


Pick one:

a) Not one who can't spell

b) Be careful what you wish for.



typed that on a phone...couldnt see what i was typing.

you have no idea....i kinda dont like being a honda tech...id much rather be a aircooled vw FI master ...in training... Razz


You'll starve, as would I if I only did ACVW. Wink

The upside of being a Honda tech is you'll never starve.


well, in reality i may be able to do both if i ever wanted to move down your direction, which isnt unreasonable for me either...
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So what went wrong? I had fun working on YOUR project. Hope I didn't get comTRAMinated by touching the FI system
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Not much- it made it back to Oregon OK, actually.

It was a weird one. One of the NOS trigger contacts was intermittently sticking open. This was what was allowing the car to cough but not start. I think the shot of ether would allow the engine to shake just enough to jar it loose so it would start working again.

The other thing was that somehow with all the futzing around down there the vacuum line from the underside of the throttle body to the trans modulator got knocked off. It's very tough- in fact almost impossible- to see unless you know it's there. That's why whoever adjusted idle speed down there had to screw the bypass screw almost all the way in- there was a rather large vacuum leak there.

Found those two issues and corrected them and she starts/ runs just fine again.

We're doing some further work. The top and trunk lid are going to be refinished, and the rear torsion arm bushings replaced as it is sagging and squeaking now. We're also going to remove, strip, and refinish the steering column. The sunroof teeth "skipped" while it was gone, so an overhaul there is in the works.

Finally, I will be re- designing the console as it was a nice presentation but too restrictive on the driver. I have it penciled out in a way that really shouldn't interfere at all, I think. The rear window defrost prototype is going to get redone with some machinery and a steadier hand this time.

More pics in a couple weeks.
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I thought about pulling and cleaning the trigger points until we got it started and running with the shot of starter fluid.
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I thought about pulling and cleaning the trigger points until we got it started and running with the shot of starter fluid.


It wouldn't have helped. Something went wrong in the manufacturing of this set- it was a definite hard parts failure. No matter how I cleaned and lubed, that one point just hung open until some heat was applied. Since I have a bunch of these anyways, I just replaced the set.
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I thought about pulling and cleaning the trigger points until we got it started and running with the shot of starter fluid.


It wouldn't have helped. Something went wrong in the manufacturing of this set- it was a definite hard parts failure. No matter how I cleaned and lubed, that one point just hung open until some heat was applied. Since I have a bunch of these anyways, I just replaced the set.


Let me guess, that was an NOS set that failed. Wink

Closing off the idle screw should have sent a "red flag" up that there was a vacuum leak too. Shocked I realize it might not have been easily seen, but it still should have been noticable that something was "a miss" there.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 27, 2015 10:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

By way of update:

Old console design- just too restrictive of the driver's foot and leg:

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Redesigned console:
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Car is now two tone- "drapes match the carpet" so to speak...

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Car got a bunch more goodies like a repaint of the trunk lid, cut and buff work on the hood, NOS column with signal switch and lock/ key, new original rear torsion arm bushings, rebuilt sunroof mechanism and seal, and a bunch of other little things sorted out. It goes to alignment Monday, then detail, then home.
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