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Ukekuke
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I was the only guy who called on local CL about a
Westphalia ........
Guy couldn't figure it out! Score for me.......
Yes I typed it wrong👍 |
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Jetta_AAZ
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| Posted: Sun Oct 19, 2014 12:01 pm Post subject: Re: "Westphalia" vs "Westfalia" |
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| Xtremjeepn wrote: |
I searched and didn't see this discussed at all so just thought I would ask.
I was just looking at some Vanagon listings on Criagslist and I frequently see people call them "Westphalia" instead of "Westfalia" out of some sort of misguided "snooty correctness." 
What am I missing here?
"Westphalia" is clearly a region while "Westfalia" is the company that converts VW vans. Which if you read the companies history it seems it has always been "Westfalia".
Does the confusion come from some "origin sticker" or similar marking that designates the region where they were built?
http://www.westfalia-mobil.net/en/unternehmen/unternehmenshistorie.php
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Westfalia |
It's just a typo just like some people might type Criagslist instead of Craigslist or say companies instead of company's. |
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Xtremjeepn
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| Posted: Sun Oct 19, 2014 12:04 pm Post subject: Re: "Westphalia" vs "Westfalia" |
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| Jetta_AAZ wrote: |
It's just a typo just like some people might type Criagslist instead of Craigslist or say companies instead of company's. |
That does not seam to be the case. It's clearly deliberate.
You also don't mistype "ph" instead of "f"  Its a misuse of the word not a typing error. |
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Jon_slider
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| Posted: Sun Oct 19, 2014 12:16 pm Post subject: Re: "Westphalia" vs "Westfalia" |
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| Xtremjeepn wrote: |
| That does not seam to be the case. It's clearly deliberate. |
LOL, your use of "seam" is a typo, but it does not seem deliberate 
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WestyBob
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| Posted: Sun Oct 19, 2014 1:04 pm Post subject: Re: "Westphalia" vs "Westfalia" |
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To steal a thread, I've noticed many in the far north, especially Canada, pronounce vanagon, 'vana-gone', whereas in my burg they pronounce it 'vana-gun'.
Then there's Vanna White but that's another ..... |
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TequilaSunSet
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I drive a Westfailah
(tintop with westy interior) 
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seventyfo
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I can't figure out what the phuck this thread is about.
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madspaniard
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Sometimes PH in English equals F in Spanish
Pharmacy = Farmacia
Physics = Física
and so on...
From the interwebs, all of the words that I mentioned are Greek in origin, and they all contained the Greek letter φ (phi). In Classical Greek this was pronounced as an aspirated [pʰ], which the Latins wrote as ph when they borrowed the words from Greek. Later this sound changed into an [f] in both Greek and Latin, and was passed as such into French, and then into English.
Once the idea that ph was pronounced [f] was established, it spread to a few other areas, as well. Borrowings from Hebrew and other Semitic languages sometimes use ph, especially since the Hebrew letter פ can be [p] or [f] depending on context. Vietnamese regularly uses ph for [f], in this case because the modern Vietnamese orthography was designed by the French.
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Jon_slider
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| madspaniard wrote: |
Sometimes PH in English equals F in Spanish
... Vietnamese orthography was designed by the French. |
Phascinating! So, If I read you right France is English for Phrance?
and Westfalia is English for Westphalia.. Wow!
Who woulda thunk it!
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?Waldo?
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While I see a lot of borderline illiteracy and a lack of spelling skills on various forums, I do think in this Westfalia instance it is more a matter of a spell checking function making "corrections" that are not wanted.
Dave |
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Sometimes I also feel defiant when using correct spelling. I don't really care how people spell Westphalica or why they spell it that way.
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| That does not seam to be the case. It's clearly deliberate. |
I absolutely love the irony of that post. |
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campism
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| Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2014 6:52 am Post subject: Re: "Westphalia" vs "Westfalia" |
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| Jetta_AAZ wrote: |
| It's just a typo just like some people might type Criagslist instead of Craigslist or say companies instead of company's. |
The first might be a typo, but the "companies instead of company's" example you cite represents my own personal campaign on the misuse of the apostrophe. Don't even get me started...
Now, back to the West(f\ph)alia discussion.
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there is a big sticker, front and rear, spelled Westfalia.
so when pertaining to the van, Westphalia would be incorrect.
Porsche sounds faster, but if I called my van an '85 Vanagon Porsche it would be incorrect.
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Bruce Wayne
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I spell it Westfauxlia since mines a GL with a poptop bolted over the big sunroof. had a set of these made from an online vendor.
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MarkWard
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What annoys me is Volkswagon in place of Volkswagen.
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Jetta_AAZ
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| Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2014 4:22 pm Post subject: Re: "Westphalia" vs "Westfalia" |
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| campism wrote: |
but the "companies instead of company's" example you cite represents my own personal campaign on the misuse of the apostrophe. Don't even get me started...
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See the opening post |
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Abscate
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It's Westphalia for Goodness' sake. Get your phacts straight.
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nacradriver
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I heard Westphalia girls are phast....
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Xtremjeepn
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| Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2014 7:52 pm Post subject: Re: "Westphalia" vs "Westfalia" |
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| That does not seam to be the case. It's clearly deliberate. |
LOL, your use of "seam" is a typo, but it does not seem deliberate |
I hate autocorrect and fat thumbs  |
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