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MikeinColorado Samba Member
Joined: October 06, 2014 Posts: 59 Location: Colorado Springs
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Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2014 6:46 pm Post subject: |
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the worst of the rust...that I can see...
BONDO!!!
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Bobnotch Samba Member
Joined: July 06, 2003 Posts: 22425 Location: Kimball, Mi
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Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2014 12:33 pm Post subject: |
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Believe it not, but those are all common spots. I think you can find patch panels for those spots in Germany, but I can't remember who it was that was offering them.
Rocker kins are available thru CIP and ISP. _________________ Bob 65 Notch S with Sunroof
71 Notch ...aka Krunchy; build pics here;
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=249390 -been busy working
64 T-34 Ghia...aka Wolfie, under construction... http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=412120
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People keep confusing "restored" and "restroyed". |
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MikeinColorado Samba Member
Joined: October 06, 2014 Posts: 59 Location: Colorado Springs
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Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2014 5:31 pm Post subject: |
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That's good news. I want to give the car the respect it deserves.
I have a friend that can weld really well and we already worked out some trade...he wants the single carb on the tall intake for his bus and I need welding done so we are going to trade.. I will go dual carbs and regain my cargo area!
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Believe it not, but those are all common spots. I think you can find patch panels for those spots in Germany, but I can't remember who it was that was offering them.
Rocker kins are available thru CIP and ISP. |
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MikeinColorado Samba Member
Joined: October 06, 2014 Posts: 59 Location: Colorado Springs
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Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2014 4:42 pm Post subject: |
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Ok, forgive the stupid Q....
I read the sticky section and I know a type one in the type 3 is a no no..
So that being said....
The internals from what I read are the same?
So I could get an engle 120 cam for my 2110 build from a type one and put it in my type 3? OR from what I read the distributor is different? |
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eyetzr Samba Member
Joined: October 09, 2013 Posts: 1425 Location: Toronto, Ontario. Canada
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Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2014 5:23 am Post subject: |
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Yeah the internals are same (at least the info passed to me) yes the distributor is different, FI use a different one. I think you will need to find some fenders, if bondo is bubbling, rust is there & probably a poor repair by a previous owner Remove the fenders as carefully as possible & repair the inside first. You can use the fender to check fitment as you go. _________________ I think he meant "rare", as in "not well-done" |
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MikeinColorado Samba Member
Joined: October 06, 2014 Posts: 59 Location: Colorado Springs
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Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2014 10:21 am Post subject: |
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I have a long time friend who owns a vw only restoration shop in town. Most likely body work will go to him. He does a damn fine job and cares enough about vws to do it correctly. He will also let me throw a fender at him and then another...gives me time to save for a proper paint job.
From what I read a 2110 with 44s, good heads and a 120 cam
will get me my power goals
I know I will lose some at altitude and I am ok with that...
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Yeah the internals are same (at least the info passed to me) yes the distributor is different, FI use a different one. I think you will need to find some fenders, if bondo is bubbling, rust is there & probably a poor repair by a previous owner Remove the fenders as carefully as possible & repair the inside first. You can use the fender to check fitment as you go. |
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eyetzr Samba Member
Joined: October 09, 2013 Posts: 1425 Location: Toronto, Ontario. Canada
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Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2014 11:03 am Post subject: |
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I am not sure on the whole altitude thing. I am guessing you tune for your driving area & adjust accordingly. I have a 2074 & it works good. Dual 44 webers, 110 cam, lower compression for the crap fuel out there. If I was to do all over type 4 power looks like fun maybe a fuel injected 2 litre with a mega squirt. _________________ I think he meant "rare", as in "not well-done" |
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Mike Fisher Samba Member
Joined: January 30, 2006 Posts: 17970 Location: Eugene, OR
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Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2014 11:53 am Post subject: |
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Build a 1600 with used parts for now to drive it while you do the bodywork. You guys could be driving it by Spring! _________________ https://imgur.com/user/FisherSquareback/posts
69 FI/AT square Daily Driver
66 sunroof,67,70,71,71,71AT,72,72AT,73 Parts
two 57 oval ragtops sold
'68 Karmann Ghia sold
Society is like stew. If you don't keep it stirred up you end up with a lot of scum on the top! - Russ_Wolfe/Edward Abbey |
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MikeinColorado Samba Member
Joined: October 06, 2014 Posts: 59 Location: Colorado Springs
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Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2014 1:04 pm Post subject: |
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My 1991 Audi 200 with the 20VT I5 pulls amazing at 6,000 feet, but at sea level she becomes a full on beast. I know up here we have to watch the turbo for over spool as it spins very high rpms just to produce the required boost..I know hill climb cars on Pikes Peak face issues as they run from the town to 14,000 as well. Altitude robs power.
From out local MTM guy: http://www.champagnemotors.com/audi-tips.html citing my sources..
Audi Performance Computer Chips
Here is a brief overview of tuning:
Computer chips will make your engine run more smooth, with more power, and better fuel economy. Many tuners boast that they can give you lots of horsepower and torque with their computer chips. I would tend to agree… maybe at sea level, but think about this…
We live 5,280 feet above sea level! Have you noticed that you may have a hard time breathing here as compared to sea level? What about driving over some of the 12,000 feet passes. Hmmm, what about your Audi’s breathing?
Most tuners only think about lower elevations and therefore, never understand what high altitude does to your turbo if you use the wrong chip. With more boost pressure at sea level and the thick air the turbo(s) spin up properly. At the high altitude the turbo(s) has to turn faster because of the thiner air to deliver more boost; therefore with the sea level chips you get serious over-boost and a broken turbo.
Many turbo’s at this altitude fall apart because of the boost pressure that the lower elevation computer chips deliver. The Audi computer will not adjust unless the MTM chip tells it to. All Audi computer chip tuners live at lower elevations and have no idea or care what high altitude does to your turbo. Our Computer Chip market is very small. MTM is the only computer chip tuner that has tuned at this altitude for your turbo Audi’s. Their audience is worldwide. If you decide to purchase one of the other computer chips that are available, make sure you ask if their computer chip is high altitude compatable. Then you can make your own decision..
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I am not sure on the whole altitude thing. I am guessing you tune for your driving area & adjust accordingly. I have a 2074 & it works good. Dual 44 webers, 110 cam, lower compression for the crap fuel out there. If I was to do all over type 4 power looks like fun maybe a fuel injected 2 litre with a mega squirt. |
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MikeinColorado Samba Member
Joined: October 06, 2014 Posts: 59 Location: Colorado Springs
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Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2014 2:15 pm Post subject: |
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Ok, my cargo area was hacked for that god awful progressive carb...
Now my engine cover has a giant hole in it. What would be a good replacement cover? Do I need a Type 3 specific one or will other models work as well? |
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Erik G Samba Member
Joined: October 16, 2002 Posts: 13280 Location: Tejas!
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Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2014 2:40 pm Post subject: |
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they are type 3 specific, but not hard to find, and not really year specific. Some have indents for straps, clips, etc, but they will all work for your needs |
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vwfye Samba Member
Joined: April 15, 2000 Posts: 7661
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Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2014 2:55 pm Post subject: |
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Squareback lid is the least difficult to find, but the fabric strap is almost always missing. _________________ 64 No'back Speedster "Pearl"
1980s Sand Dragster "The Plunger"
LME "Little Giant Killer 3" |
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MikeinColorado Samba Member
Joined: October 06, 2014 Posts: 59 Location: Colorado Springs
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Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2014 7:05 pm Post subject: |
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Good to know. I am doing recon and ordering parts. I am waiting til Christmas to show the boys the car. I got them Empi shirts as well...
I think the oldest suspects something... He knows he can't go in the garage and told my secretary that he thinks I got him a car. |
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eyetzr Samba Member
Joined: October 09, 2013 Posts: 1425 Location: Toronto, Ontario. Canada
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Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2014 5:58 am Post subject: |
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There are engine covers posted in the classifieds here. Check with Joel (Bookooz) he is a respected seller of type 3 parts. Surprise them early, we want to see the expression on there faces. 4 ME?!!! _________________ I think he meant "rare", as in "not well-done" |
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MikeinColorado Samba Member
Joined: October 06, 2014 Posts: 59 Location: Colorado Springs
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Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2014 9:06 am Post subject: |
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Mike Fisher is going to sell me one.
I have to wait... I have this planned... They got the usual xbox games etc...then Empi shirts, Bentley, How to Build VW Engines...going to build up to this. My oldest is a reader and will have both of those books finished in a week.
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There are engine covers posted in the classifieds here. Check with Joel (Bookooz) he is a respected seller of type 3 parts. Surprise them early, we want to see the expression on there faces. 4 ME?!!! |
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MikeinColorado Samba Member
Joined: October 06, 2014 Posts: 59 Location: Colorado Springs
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Posted: Fri Dec 26, 2014 1:05 pm Post subject: |
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The big reveal has happened...Very exciting. My 8 year old dove into the Bentley and started reading this week. We voted to keep it green and keep the name...the car was called The Pickle. When it warms a bit we will take stock of parts and formulate our plan. The oldest wants to "do it right" and take the body off the pan.
Two very excited boys....
Testing things out
and future driver two
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Max Welton Samba Member
Joined: May 19, 2003 Posts: 10697 Location: Black Forest, CO
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MikeinColorado Samba Member
Joined: October 06, 2014 Posts: 59 Location: Colorado Springs
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Posted: Fri Dec 26, 2014 7:17 pm Post subject: |
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Nothing more valuable than time in the garage with your kids.
By the time that thing hits the streets they will have turned every nut and bolt and know that car inside and out.
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Good Job Mike.
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MikeinColorado Samba Member
Joined: October 06, 2014 Posts: 59 Location: Colorado Springs
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Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2015 2:25 pm Post subject: |
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I owe you all an update...
The weather is nice so we have gotten into the car and started gutting it...
What shocks me is how rust has gotten into the most unpredictable of places. I think I found a clean set of fenders and I will go check them out this week. I will get some detail photos tomorrow. The plan is to pull the body and start the pan..then suspension and just go from there...
The boys did some planning and started spreadsheets to track parts..We have everything identified and listed according to bin...
lots of rust in odd places...
pulling door panels...
He's not afraid to get his hands dirty...
pulling the car in and out of the garage gives him a chance to "drive" as dad pushes...
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68vwfasty Samba Member
Joined: March 26, 2014 Posts: 277 Location: Portland, OR
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Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2015 7:35 pm Post subject: |
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Awesome to see the kids engaged. Keep it fun! |
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