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hogan029
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 Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2014 8:44 pm Post subject: 1986 Westy |
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So.. I just picked one of these babies up on a whim.. I got a really good deal on this unit but it has a blown engine. I am looking on some suggestions to get this baby back on the road.. I think at this point, it is beyond the point where I can do a rebuild as it appears the engine block has a hole in it.
Is there a good chance that the transmission is blown as well. Apparently the last driver forgot to change gears and had the engine redlined for quite sometime and then it blew on him.
here is a photo
Any thoughts?
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fleet_maintenance
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My thought is that "forgot to change gears" is a euphanism for "didn't pull over when the rattling started and the buzzer was going off.
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ThankYouJerry
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| Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2014 9:23 pm Post subject: Re: 1986 Westy |
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| hogan029 wrote: |
| ...Any thoughts? |
1.8T 
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Wildthings
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| Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2014 9:28 pm Post subject: |
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| A lot of WBXer engines get pulled by outfits doing conversions. Be patient and find a good one. |
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Vanagon Nut
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The transmission may well be fine.
If the heads and cooling system parts on/near the engine are ok, rebuilding the engine may be an option. Or a used engine.
edited.
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djkeev
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hogan029
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| That's what I thought. Couldn't turn down the offer as it didn't cost me all that much for this thing. I am in Calgary Alberta. Can anyone reccomend a place to look for a new 2.1 engine or know what would be the appropriate asking price for one of these? |
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?Waldo?
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| There is a good chance the trans is fine and a good chance it isn't. The extended high revs wouldn't hurt the trans, but it was very likely in gear and rolling down the road when it tossed the rod which would have stopped the engine from spinning and in turn locked the trans which would have locked up the tires with all the force of the locked up tires going through the trans. I bought one van that had a tossed rod with a low mileage trans and the lockup damaged the trans. |
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ThankYouJerry
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| hogan029 wrote: |
| That's what I thought. Couldn't turn down the offer as it didn't cost me all that much for this thing. I am in Calgary Alberta. Can anyone reccomend a place to look for a new 2.1 engine or know what would be the appropriate asking price for one of these? |
2.1 engines range from about:
1. $500 in used but running condition (usually when someone is doing a conversion).
2. Up to about $8000 for a top of the line 2.2 rebuilt from the ground up including many upgraded ancillary parts (throttle body, etc.).
Some of the best rebuilt WBX engines come from well respected Samba members Chris Corkins (Tencentlife) and Rocky Jennings. Both builders have excellent reputations for: power, reliability, and customer service.
GoWesty also sells rebuilt WBX engines. From what I've read here on The Samba, the GW engines are fairly decent up to about 2.3L. Beyond that, there have been some reliability/longevity issues.
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hogan029
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| Andrew A. Libby wrote: |
| There is a good chance the trans is fine and a good chance it isn't. The extended high revs wouldn't hurt the trans, but it was very likely in gear and rolling down the road when it tossed the rod which would have stopped the engine from spinning and in turn locked the trans which would have locked up the tires with all the force of the locked up tires going through the trans. I bought one van that had a tossed rod with a low mileage trans and the lockup damaged the trans. |
I was able to speak to the last owner. He stated to me that the tires did not lock up when he blew the rod. He stayed that he just took it out of gear and came slowly to a stop. I am going to have to take a look at what I need to get done. |
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Ahwahnee
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| hogan029 wrote: |
| ...Couldn't turn down the offer as it didn't cost me all that much... |
Isn't that how heroin users get started? Welcome to our addiction. |
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bluefirefly
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JudoJeff
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Avoid GEX engines, slick webpage, junk products.
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hogan029
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| Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2014 9:54 pm Post subject: |
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| Awesome. Thanks for all this great info! |
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bluefirefly
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So, did you find anything yet?
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