Tubbing a late Fastback.....

JesusGreen · Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2014 9:59 pm Post subject:

Any pics of the front? I will post pics of mine once I figure out this picture thing on here!! I went to a 135R15 and it made a huge diffrence on the clearance.

JesusGreen · Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2014 10:28 pm Post subject:

The start

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Still on 165 in these pics

One side Close to where I want it. Now on 135 on the low side. Will do the other back side tomorrow and post pics of the car again.

I plan on keeping the rust and the rat rod look. Sorry to any I offend for cutting this car up, it will look very nice once it's complete. This will not be some hack job, I will post pics along the way!! All comments suggestions welcome and appreciated. But if this is not your thing or this make should upset for what I am doing I aplogize ahead of time but let's keep this thread in the positive. There seems to be very little info on tubbing a fasty, so I hope to leave a picture trail to inspire more to have fun with there cars!!

eyetzr · Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2014 5:52 am Post subject:

Looks nice. Twisted Evil

The front looks like you are running type 1 beam (?) You might look at the rat rod post, there is a Brasilia there that they are tubbing out. Are you going to modify the factory wheel wells & reuse or just build new? Keep us posted.
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I think he meant "rare", as in "not well-done"

JonL · Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2014 9:05 am Post subject:

I 'tubbed' my notchback and if you're really going all in, it's not that simple if you really want the look. (pro street)

What I mean is you are probably going to want to raise the rear too, not just narrow, otherwise it may look kind of baja ish if you run a tall tire.
With my car, I replaced the whole rear with a type 1, raised the engine 5", and at that point you need to run an upright motor (especially with IDA's), which now you're working on cooling too (new problem).
If you go this route, you'll need sway a way axles/narrowed axle tubes. But then you will probably want sway a way torsion bars, aluminum spring plate retainers, etc. etc. to complete the rear. Then at that point, you'll want a T1 front, which is easier, but a lot of work if you want it done right.

You'll have a hard time doing all that work not going all in.

I can post some pics if you're curious about how it looks on a notchback.

MikeinColorado · Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2014 10:18 am Post subject:

This makes me think dirty...lustful thoughts..

eyetzr · Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2014 10:44 am Post subject:

JonL · Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2014 8:18 pm Post subject:

I went ahead and posted a couple of pics in readers rides, got one of the pan to give an idea, I have build pics as well:

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?p=7416637#7416637

JesusGreen · Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2014 11:00 pm Post subject:

So I got the car down to 3in off the ground to the pan and The center of the fender lip to the ground is 19 1/2. I am having a little problem with my control arm touching my rims a touch. I took out the front body mount bushings and sucked the beam up as close as I could and that made a huge diffrence on how much the contol rubbed. Yes I have a Type 1 to Type 3 Ball Joint Beam conversion that is narrowed a total of 4" that uses 69 and later Beetle/Ghia Torsions, control arms and after market drop spindles to accept factory disc brakes. Per Pete at Airkewld. He is the person who made me the front beam. I am also looking at going back to standard spindles see if that helps the control arm rub. I am going to run diamond back white walls 135r15 in the front and 155r15 I. The back. I am up 3 notches in the rear with 165r15 and I have no rubbing so 155 will fit nice and lower my back end another 1in or so. The tubbing was not bad at all I will weld up the inside fire wall but I want to leave the open fenders under the hood so you can see everything. I will make it looked finished but still open. Thanks for all the replays and pics so fast!!! Will keep posting pics of the progress and hiccups or what not.

JesusGreen · Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2014 11:01 pm Post subject:

EatACactus · Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2014 8:36 am Post subject:

Small tubs, but tubs nonetheless.
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JesusGreen · Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2014 6:27 pm Post subject:

Thanks EatACactus!! Looks very nice and clean!! Pics look great!!! It looks like I am not going to have to tub the rear!! I am going to run a 155R15 tire and it will not rub!! The fronts are fully cut out and ready to get welded back up!! I got to take the car for a little drive around the block, not far but her first ride was nice!! The car made in and out uf the drive way fine.

eyetzr · Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2014 5:23 am Post subject:

Looks nice, glad to hear you can save a little work & drive it sooner.
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I think he meant "rare", as in "not well-done"

JesusGreen · Posted: Sun Nov 09, 2014 4:34 pm Post subject:

One side almost done!! Car sits a little over 2in off the ground!! I have driven it about 50 miles now and the breakin has been great no major problems at all!! Ground control arms down enough they don't rub the rims anymore. Car rides amazing for as low as it sits!! Have to order new white walls and decide if I am going to go red or white rims......

JesusGreen · Posted: Sat Dec 20, 2014 2:32 am Post subject:

Everything is all welded up and coated with bed liner.

Got new rims and tires. Outside of the car is close to finishing up.

Working on interior now!! Putting a custom bench seat in the front with two jl audio tw5 13.5 subs under the seat. One on each side of the center hump. New subs are only 3in thick and box is only 6in deep!!! Crazy new technology! Should sound nice!! More pics to come!!

dwoah · Posted: Sat Dec 20, 2014 3:31 am Post subject:

Any pics of the inner fenders?
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Sqrbckguy38 · Posted: Sat Dec 20, 2014 7:53 am Post subject:

Looks great, I love a project that comes together, especially when it's a fasty. Type 3s are my favorites. I can't wait to see yours done.
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W1K1 · Posted: Sat Dec 20, 2014 8:58 am Post subject:

you might want to check the junkyards for a small truck bench seat, more comfortable for sure.

or just stop at your local park Wink

if comfort isn't important

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Bobnotch · Posted: Sat Dec 20, 2014 10:28 am Post subject:

fuhq64 · Posted: Sat Dec 20, 2014 5:51 pm Post subject:

fuhq64 · Posted: Sat Dec 20, 2014 6:12 pm Post subject:

pic for reference. As for the rear i managed to keep the inside tubs and modified the outside, under the fenders, for wheel clearace
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