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Vanapplebomb Samba Member
Joined: November 03, 2010 Posts: 5409 Location: Holland, MI
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Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2014 10:56 pm Post subject: Lash-Caps on SI Stainless Valves? |
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I'm getting a set of single piece stainless valves from SI. I know some people have had issues with stainless valves wearing at the valves tips with traditional adjustors. My adjustors are the larger 10mm screws. Do you think the valve tips will hold up or are lash caps really needed regardless of the size of the adjusting screw? _________________ 1800 Type 4 Berrien 295
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modok Samba Member
Joined: October 30, 2009 Posts: 26785 Location: Colorado Springs
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Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2014 11:07 pm Post subject: |
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Lash caps are required when you use a SS valve that does NOT have a hard tip.
If the tip is magnetic then it is a hard tip. The valve and stem will be none, or weakly magnetic, but tip will be strongly magnetic. |
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mark tucker Samba Member
Joined: April 08, 2009 Posts: 23937 Location: SHALIMAR ,FLORIDA
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Posted: Sat Oct 25, 2014 2:40 pm Post subject: |
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I use lash caps on everything.there cheep,they protect.there hard so the rocker can slide if needed. |
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Vanapplebomb Samba Member
Joined: November 03, 2010 Posts: 5409 Location: Holland, MI
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bugguy076 Samba Member
Joined: December 11, 2007 Posts: 1068 Location: Dover, PA.
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Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2014 5:09 pm Post subject: |
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I would use them. won't hurt a thing. _________________ Grubby Fingers Racing
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mark tucker Samba Member
Joined: April 08, 2009 Posts: 23937 Location: SHALIMAR ,FLORIDA
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Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2014 8:35 pm Post subject: |
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manley says dont use them with hard tiped valves.I have always used them with everything execpt for my yamaha yz 250 dirt bike,I cant figure where they go ( hard on hard usualy dosent work so well,but Ive never had any issue,but caps hardened too much for the steel used may have an issue.) |
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Vanapplebomb Samba Member
Joined: November 03, 2010 Posts: 5409 Location: Holland, MI
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bugguy1967 Samba Member
Joined: January 16, 2008 Posts: 4341 Location: Los Angeles, CA 90016
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Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2014 9:07 pm Post subject: |
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CB's regular stainless valves and Snakeskin valves have hardened magnetic stellite tips. I just went outside and checked the magnetism. They're strongly magnetic at the tip, and nonmagnetic everywhere else. CB's can be ordered from 35.5 to 46mm in standard length. Also, at $9 each, they're probably cheaper than whatever you're going to order from SI. |
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Brent Samba Member
Joined: April 28, 2010 Posts: 1614 Location: San Tan Valley, AZ
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Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2014 1:44 am Post subject: |
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I just received a package from Si today. First thing I checked was for magnetic tips. Confirmed they are magnetic. The color is a little different too.
For the above comment, they are 44x36 Type 4 valves and were $12 each direct from Si. Pretty good IMO. _________________ 69 Fastback Build
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Vanapplebomb Samba Member
Joined: November 03, 2010 Posts: 5409 Location: Holland, MI
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Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2014 3:38 am Post subject: |
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Yup, not bad at all. My engine machinist is doing a valve job for me. He likes SI valves. I asked him yesterday about the valve tip issue and he said that all of SI's valves for air cooled VW's have hardened tips to so they hold up to the solid adjustors.
I'm only getting new exhaust valves because my intakes are just fine. my engine machinist measured them and they are worn half a thousandth on the stems which is well within the wear limits. He said he would regrind the intakes and reuse them. He also skims over new valves on the grinder to make sure they are nice and true before installing. Just the basic valve job. New guides, cut the seats, redo the valves, check spring pressure and instal hight, and do a leak down test. _________________ 1800 Type 4 Berrien 295
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[email protected] Samba Member
Joined: August 15, 2002 Posts: 4394 Location: Brew City
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raygreenwood Samba Member
Joined: November 24, 2008 Posts: 21512 Location: Oklahoma City
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Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2014 10:22 pm Post subject: |
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I have a set of Intervalve (made in Switzerland) with stellite tips Im about to try out. Decent recomendations on them. Well see. Type 4, 42 x 36.....abiut $12 a valve as well.
Ill post how they go. Should be about equal to Si from the feedback. Ray |
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Vanapplebomb Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Nov 02, 2014 2:38 am Post subject: |
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Roy, which valves do you order from them?
I have heard good things about Intervalve, but I really don't know that much about them. I am curious as to what you will have to say after giving them a go, Ray. _________________ 1800 Type 4 Berrien 295
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raygreenwood Samba Member
Joined: November 24, 2008 Posts: 21512 Location: Oklahoma City
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Posted: Sun Nov 02, 2014 12:57 pm Post subject: |
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Vanapplebomb wrote: |
Roy, which valves do you order from them?
I have heard good things about Intervalve, but I really don't know that much about them. I am curious as to what you will have to say after giving them a go, Ray. |
The exhausts are part # 1423.239. Head diameter is 35.96mm
stem diameter is 8.9mm. Stellite tips, chrome stem (tip is highly magnetic and stems are moderately magnetic) stainless heads.
The intake is part #1424.032. Heads are 41.95mm, stems are 7.95mm, tips are stellite, stems are chrome and heads are a magnetic stainless alloy as well.
I got them at Pelikan parts. I have not used them yet but will by January. They got good reviews from the 914 and 911 crowd.....very good for anything but track use was the concensus. No failures.....just the level of knowledge/trust was not there yet.
A little pricier than Si....but a little less than Mannly and easier availability. The intakes were about $ 12 each and the exhausts were about $27 each.
Ray |
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