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Miaghia
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 Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2014 8:50 am Post subject: New Brake Lines - Help please |
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I would like to redo all the lines, hard and soft. Who supplies these? Are they pre-made to fit our Ghia's?
Thanks for any advice!
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c21darrel
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-Zodiac-
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| Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2014 10:03 am Post subject: |
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Also bending brake line is really easy, you can do it with your hands. They sell copper(probably some sort of alloy) lines you can put in that bend even easier and you won't have to worry about rust. I agree with Darrel though, if your lines aren't rusted or damaged they are probably fine. I got my lines for a chevy I had at my local auto parts store, they might stock lines that work for a vw.
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| Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2014 2:24 pm Post subject: |
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I'd replace the hard lines as well as the soft lines if you're in any doubt about their condition. The long one that runs front to rear can corrode badly from years of wet feet and carpets. Mine snapped like a dry twig when I went to remove it at the point where it passes the pedals on it's way to the master cylinder.
Here's a kit of lines for a late Ghia (not sure what year you have).
http://www2.cip1.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=VWC-113-698-996-D
The soft lines are available from the same site, you'd need to check which ones you have for correct lengths. Best to get new retaining clips as well.
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Miaghia
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| Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2014 6:50 pm Post subject: |
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| Thanks guys. Going to do hard lines while I have it all broken open. Looks like the kits are unbent. |
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-Zodiac-
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A tip when bending. Make sure you have the threaded ends seated against the flange on either side, you don't want them right next to each other before you start. If you bend it and they're sitting on one side you'll kick yourself because the threaded ends won't go around the bend and you have to un bend it.
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djway3474
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| Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2014 7:13 pm Post subject: |
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I have read many accounts of the hard lines not being anywhere close from some of the vendors.
You may want to research before you buy.
I just acid cleaned all mine today and they look near new so sticking with them.  |
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c21darrel
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kman
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| Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2014 11:27 am Post subject: |
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| djway3474 wrote: |
I have read many accounts of the hard lines not being anywhere close from some of the vendors.
You may want to research before you buy.
I just acid cleaned all mine today and they look near new so sticking with them. |
My set was all a touch longer than stock which is far better than them being too short. |
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Abscate
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| Posted: Sat Nov 01, 2014 3:06 am Post subject: |
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Note the tip on having the unions at their flanges before bending above. Tape them there as they love to dance onto the wrong side of a bend and then giggle at you.
Bend all brake lines around pipe to make a smooth radius without kinking. You can always use up a little extra length with a couple of shallow bends back and forth. Too little length is much harder to fix.
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motorhead364
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I just did all the hard and soft brake lines on my pan. I got the kit from KGPR and its was great.
Invest in this
http://www.oreillyauto.com/site/c/detail/PFM0/W806...;ppt=C0374
Makes it really easy to make nice looking bends and no crimps.
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Note to the OP
The folks in the dry states who haven't dealt with a rust belt car think rust is when the paint is gone. You and I know it's when the brake line is holding the car together. You can buy standard pipe and a flare tool and make your own exactly to fit..this might make sense if you are redoing a whole car.
There are several kinds of flare and only one will work, so researching to be done there.
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