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PostPosted: Wed Oct 29, 2014 10:12 am    Post subject: Newbie buying an oval please help Reply with quote

I am a newbie to the VW world. I have always wanted a bug and am now in the position to buy one. I'm looking at a 57 oval window that has been restored. What would something like this be worth? Any feedback would be great. Thank you

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 29, 2014 10:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So many things have been changed and updated on that car that whether or not the '57 body and pan are an exact match isn't that much of an issue.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 29, 2014 11:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I believe that car has been on craigslist for a while up here. Just a couple observations,
- has the cheap aftermarket bumpers with the overriders tube grommets to fill gap from misfitting tubes, expect the bumper chrome to show rust soon if stored outside (and rear bumper is 1967 style)
-hood is missing Wolfsburg crest and has wrong emblem, wrong hood 100%
-rear fenders appear aftermarket based on misplaced taillights
-wrong rear apron
-un pleated seat upholstery (low cost)

Good, appears to have OG decklid and doors, and all trim inplace

IRS pan should drive nice even though. May be an excellent car and a good driver, but at first glance appears like it may have been put together without much attention to originality including unoriginal body panels so if you pursue further please consider the value of the downgraded/low quality items versus original items
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 29, 2014 11:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

remember to always check vehicle numbers match title, physically check them. This is especially important on cars that have had pan swaps. There are other titling issues to consider on cars with swapped pans that are worth checking out. A swapped pan is not a deal breaker if originality isn't extremely important to you or a future buyer, but the paperwork is very important especially if the vehicle will be titled in a new state and require a vin inspection. If paperwork doesn't jive I would avoid completely.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 29, 2014 2:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What's the asking price?
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 29, 2014 4:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

He's asking 16k
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 29, 2014 5:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pictures can be deceiving, but the car looks really clean and odd that someone would do so much good work and not catch the details listed above.

Bumpers are an easy fix, front hood can be changed, but will cost a pretty penny to get the correct year and repainted. The rear apron would take a lot of work now that it has been painted and put together. The seat upholstery is not the stock pattern, but looks very clean.

The separate pan wouldn't be deal killer for me, but the cost would have to come down 4-5K.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 29, 2014 6:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 29, 2014 8:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

To a "Non-VW" person...he might get 16k, someday. But you are here...on the Samba. You ARE a VW person... walk away from this one. If you have the 16k to be thinking about buying this car....you will find WAY nicer cars on here for cheaper. Check out this 55' bug on Craigslist....http://spokane.craigslist.org/cto/4720804948.html

Pics aren't in his ad anymore, but the black car is NICE. And you probably have a little wiggle room in price. It's been listed for quite awhile.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 30, 2014 9:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/cto/4709601903.html

Here's a link to the 55 with pics


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 30, 2014 1:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Heck, just check theSamba classifieds for Ovals...a few nice ones in your range
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 02, 2014 1:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

motofly196 wrote:
To a "Non-VW" person...he might get 16k, someday. But you are here...on the Samba. You ARE a VW person... walk away from this one. If you have the 16k to be thinking about buying this car....you will find WAY nicer cars on here for cheaper. Check out this 55' bug on Craigslist....http://spokane.craigslist.org/cto/4720804948.html

Pics aren't in his ad anymore, but the black car is NICE. And you probably have a little wiggle room in price. It's been listed for quite awhile.


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 02, 2014 8:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Im trying for the black 55 in Wasington now. It does look extremely nice and well done!! Thanks everyone!
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