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ivwshane Samba Member
Joined: May 19, 2011 Posts: 1920 Location: Sacramento ca
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Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2014 3:55 pm Post subject: Any tips for getting to the #2 spark plug? |
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This is my first time changing the plugs and I thought it was going to be a piece of cake. #1 plug was changed with no problems so I moves on to the #2 plug. I can't even see it! I stuck my finger under the tin and it feels like it's located more towards to front of the bus in relation to the hole in the tin.
Even if I'm able to get a plug socket on it and remove the plug I don't know how the hell I'm going to get the new plug back in and not mess up the threads.
So any advice?
77 type iv stock fi
I tried the search but it's not working right now nor did the google search for some reason. _________________ 77 westy 2.0 FI
69 ghia coup 1600dp
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dabble Samba Member
Joined: April 21, 2004 Posts: 271 Location: Olympia, Wa
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ivwshane Samba Member
Joined: May 19, 2011 Posts: 1920 Location: Sacramento ca
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Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2014 4:04 pm Post subject: |
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So it's just a matter of sticking the socket in and hoping for the best? _________________ 77 westy 2.0 FI
69 ghia coup 1600dp
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wihr Samba Member
Joined: August 15, 2010 Posts: 344 Location: PORTLAND, OR
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Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2014 4:11 pm Post subject: |
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Try various length extension if you are using a ratchet wrench. I cannot remember whether I use the 3 inch or 6 inch. And be sure you are using a spark plug socket. _________________ WIHR
1970 Campmobile "Van Ordinaire"
2009 Lincoln Town Car "Behemoth"
1969 Lambretta 150 DL "Nina"
1962 Matchless G 12 CS 650cc
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VDubTech Samba Member
Joined: December 29, 2002 Posts: 9142 Location: Syracuse, NY
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Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2014 4:49 pm Post subject: |
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You have to use an extension and remember the plug is at an angle. Shine a light into the hole in the tin first so you can get an idea of its orientation. #4 will be exactly the same way. _________________ First Trip in the RustyBus:
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=279077&highlight=
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my dad wasnt a belittling cock when he tought me how to wrench on cars. |
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10 photos = douchebaggery |
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ivwshane Samba Member
Joined: May 19, 2011 Posts: 1920 Location: Sacramento ca
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Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2014 4:59 pm Post subject: |
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I managed to get it, no skill involved, pure luck;)
Thanks guys! _________________ 77 westy 2.0 FI
69 ghia coup 1600dp
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timvw7476 Samba Member
Joined: June 03, 2013 Posts: 2200 Location: seattle
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Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2014 5:07 pm Post subject: Any tips for getting to the #2 sparkplug? |
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just use a 6 inch extension, get it on the plug and remember the angle,
also I had to fish too many dropped plugs out of the tin one time too many-
I think autozone sells a magnetized 13/16" "powercraft"? socket, so no more
dropped plugs on install! |
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Tcash Samba Member
Joined: July 20, 2011 Posts: 12844 Location: San Jose, California, USA
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Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2014 5:17 pm Post subject: Starting spark plug with a piece of hose. |
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You can use a piece of hose that fits snugly over the porcelain part of the plug to get it started, thread it in as far as you can with the hose. Then pull the hose off and tighten it with the plug socket.
The hose will need to be a bit longer than this.
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Thrasher22 Samba Member
Joined: October 05, 2010 Posts: 858 Location: Calgary, Canada
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Lil Lulu Samba Member
Joined: December 08, 2007 Posts: 1745 Location: Mouth of the Columbia
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Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2014 5:40 pm Post subject: |
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Mac Tools sells a terrific spark plug tool. Stiff rubber, about 6", about $12, gives you a more deft touch than a plug wrench. Finish with wrench.
I tried a hose piece but could never get it straight, the hose wants to curl. This thing is purpose-designed, so it works great for this and this only. _________________ '65 Beetle "Lil' Lulu"- Ruby Red
1600 stock from '71 bus
'72 Deluxe - Niagara Blue w/pastelwiess Camper Special 2L dual 40 Webers 002
'74 Hightop Weekender "Dixie" 1800 34 Del singles |
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Joey Samba Member
Joined: August 12, 2005 Posts: 5366 Location: Nova Scotia - Canada
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Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2014 6:56 pm Post subject: |
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I use the hose on the end of the spark plug for both removing and installing my spark plugs. I also use the hose for spark plug installation on all the cylinders. It reduces the risk of cross threading. _________________ Joey
‘60 Kombi - '74 Bus - '79 Panel - '65 Beetle |
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ivwshane Samba Member
Joined: May 19, 2011 Posts: 1920 Location: Sacramento ca
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Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2014 9:51 pm Post subject: |
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Because the plug would fall off without the screw on tip, I just used blue tape around the plug and socket, enough tape to keep it in place but not enough to not allow me to remove the socket.
I used ngk BP6ET and prenco performamax wires from busdepot who seem to think these are better than bosch.
_________________ 77 westy 2.0 FI
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ivwshane Samba Member
Joined: May 19, 2011 Posts: 1920 Location: Sacramento ca
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Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2014 9:55 pm Post subject: |
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These are my old plugs, how do they look?
_________________ 77 westy 2.0 FI
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airschooled Air-Schooled
Joined: April 04, 2012 Posts: 12721 Location: on a bike ride somewhere
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Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2014 10:53 pm Post subject: |
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We'd like to see a bit more of the insulator to get a true reading. A view of the base of the threads is helpful to see too.
What kind of condition was the engine last run at right before the plugs were removed? I like to read them immediately after a highway run. Like, pull off the freeway and shut it down, cool off, and pull plugs to read. Don't reinstall into a warm head unless you like to risk stripping threads. _________________ Learn how your vintage VW works. And why it doesn't!
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ivwshane Samba Member
Joined: May 19, 2011 Posts: 1920 Location: Sacramento ca
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Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2014 12:02 am Post subject: |
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The bus was running great, a little on the rich side according to the failed smog test:( _________________ 77 westy 2.0 FI
69 ghia coup 1600dp
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ivwshane Samba Member
Joined: May 19, 2011 Posts: 1920 Location: Sacramento ca
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Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2014 12:04 am Post subject: |
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The bus was running great, a little on the rich side according to the failed smog test:( _________________ 77 westy 2.0 FI
69 ghia coup 1600dp
70 single cab |
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Lil Lulu Samba Member
Joined: December 08, 2007 Posts: 1745 Location: Mouth of the Columbia
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Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2014 8:50 am Post subject: |
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Show more of the business end of the plug. Also, if you photograph them on a neutral background, the white reflection won't betray the true hue.
Couldn't resist writing that last part cuzza tha rhyme. _________________ '65 Beetle "Lil' Lulu"- Ruby Red
1600 stock from '71 bus
'72 Deluxe - Niagara Blue w/pastelwiess Camper Special 2L dual 40 Webers 002
'74 Hightop Weekender "Dixie" 1800 34 Del singles |
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udidwht Samba Member
Joined: March 06, 2005 Posts: 3779 Location: Seattle, WA./ HB, Ca./ Shizuoka, Japan
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Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2014 8:52 am Post subject: |
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Use NGK B5ES for the plugs. They are the equivalent in terms of heat range as the no longer made Bosch W8CC plugs. The NGK's are by far better than the current Bosch offerings. _________________ 1972 Westy Hardtop/Type-4 2056cc
96mm Biral AA P/C's~7.8:1CR
Headflow Masters New AMC 42x36mm heads w/Porsche swivel adjusters
71mm Stroke
73 Web Cam w/Web solids
Dual 40mm IDF Webers - LM-2 - 47.5 idles/125 mains/190 air corr./F11 tubes/28mm Vents - Float height 10.45mm/Drop 32mm
Bosch SVDA w/Pertronix module (7.5 initial 28 total @ 3400rpm)
Bosch W8CC plugs
Pertronix Flamethrower 40K coil
S&S 4-1 w/Walker QP 17862
3 rib 002 Trans
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