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Scorpwanna Samba Member
Joined: April 19, 2012 Posts: 794 Location: Arkansas
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Posted: Sat Nov 01, 2014 7:29 pm Post subject: Bare metal prep should I start over? |
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Got a used hood and fender and stripped them down to bare metal for a fresh paint and to get rid of multiple layers of paint. I wiped the metal with lacquer thinner and allowed it to dry, even used a hair dryer. Sprayed it with etching primer (rattle can, rustoleum automotive). Had to do some bondo work on the fender as well.
Will this be ok for long term? I have to prep this hood and fender to get painted by a body shop because I don't trust that they will since they didn't for my car before (however I didn't go down to bare metal that time). They are the only ones who can paint the parts for my car because of the type of paint used and the formula (not paint code). _________________ 1971 Super Beetle Sedan Stock
Manufacture Date: December 12 1970
Left Factory on: December 17 1970 (Emden Germany)
Received: Washington, USA
Original Color: L 12 D Shantung Yellow
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BUGGED11111 Samba Member
Joined: February 03, 2006 Posts: 1819 Location: Oregon
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Posted: Sat Nov 01, 2014 9:28 pm Post subject: |
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You should post to the Body/Paint forum. Many sharp body repair people in there. I've gotten lots of help |
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Multi69s Samba Member
Joined: January 24, 2006 Posts: 5364 Location: Lefty, CA
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djkeev Samba Moderator
Joined: September 30, 2007 Posts: 32595 Location: Reading Pennsylvania
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marklaken Samba Member
Joined: March 19, 2004 Posts: 2416 Location: fort collins, CO
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Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2014 9:00 am Post subject: |
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I wouldn't trust rustoleum primer - especially if you are buying more expensive paint to put on top of it. I would buy a quart of 2-part DTM Primer and some wax/grease remover (instead of lacquer thinner) and redo. Shouldn't take too much effort - Rustoleum comes off almost as easy as it goes on. _________________ Wish List:
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Thrasher22 Samba Member
Joined: October 05, 2010 Posts: 858 Location: Calgary, Canada
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Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2014 9:24 am Post subject: |
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Rustoleum is an oil based paint, so if you try and paint over it with a non-oil paint (pretty much anything but rustoleum) you'll likely run into big issues.
That should be fine to keep rust off while you work on it, but someone (you or the shop) will have to remove the primer if you're using "real" automotive paint, which I'm assuming you are if its going to a shop. _________________ 1975 Westfalia - http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=516701 |
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Scorpwanna Samba Member
Joined: April 19, 2012 Posts: 794 Location: Arkansas
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Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2014 12:38 pm Post subject: |
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Hrm... I took the primer off the hood back down to bare metal again, got some acetone and wiped it on there, allowed it to dry. Used the Rustoleum self etch primer like before. I have no access to good paints or the know how to use them. The paint the body shop uses is Sherwin Williams automotive paint. Its what they used to paint my car in the past. Which I found they didn't prime with their stuff :(. I had primed it with rattle cans just to protect the metal at the time. When I got it back from the body shop it looked fine until a month later when things started happening. Long story short, it was a waste of money and I couldn't do anything about it. But I'm forced to have them paint the fender and hood since they have the paint and everything else to do it. Was a formula and not a paint code they used that no one else around can match. :( _________________ 1971 Super Beetle Sedan Stock
Manufacture Date: December 12 1970
Left Factory on: December 17 1970 (Emden Germany)
Received: Washington, USA
Original Color: L 12 D Shantung Yellow
SOLEX 34-PICT 3 Carb
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Scorpwanna Samba Member
Joined: April 19, 2012 Posts: 794 Location: Arkansas
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Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2014 12:40 pm Post subject: |
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Oh yeah, since I used a chemical stripper, how do I paint that hard to reach area under the hood where the 2 pieces come together? The little holes? _________________ 1971 Super Beetle Sedan Stock
Manufacture Date: December 12 1970
Left Factory on: December 17 1970 (Emden Germany)
Received: Washington, USA
Original Color: L 12 D Shantung Yellow
SOLEX 34-PICT 3 Carb
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Mike Fisher Samba Member
Joined: January 30, 2006 Posts: 17970 Location: Eugene, OR
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Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2014 2:29 pm Post subject: |
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I never had any problems painting over thin rattle can primer. Paint the whole car a color that you mix. Never let a Painter hold you hostage to his work! _________________ https://imgur.com/user/FisherSquareback/posts
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