Engine and chassis numbers

[john mc]

Hi All,
I have recently got myself a Karmann Ghia (barn find). The person that I got it from said that it was a 1959 model. I would like to double check this detail.
When I have checked on the internet the chassis number/engine number I come up with nothing. Could anyone suggest a way to verify the year model I was given?
Regards John (Sydney, Australia)

[ashman40]

Did you look here?
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/archives/info/chassisdatingkg.php
For '59 model year look from Aug 1958 thru Jul 1959.

What are the first few digits of your VIN and engine serial#? According to the above the VIN should be between "1 774 681" thru "2 528 667" and engine number "1 937 451" thru "2 156 322" for a '59 model year.
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[john mc]

Thanks Ashman 40
The vin number is 110441225 and the engine number is S8546649 . I'm thinking I have got bit's from different cars . But I was told that the body shell came from the floor pan of this car . ???? mmmm mystery it is .

[ashman40]

[john mc]

Hi ashman40
When I bought the car it was in bits but was told all the stuff was there . I'm still looking for the vin plate form the trunk . Hope I can find it or I think I'm screwed . As u said who knows what year it is . I have posted some pictures of the car and will post the vin and engine number tomorrow .
Thanks again
john Sydney Australia

[john mc]

[ashman40]

WOW!
You have quite a bit of work cut out for you.

The whole front clip from the windshield to the headlights appears to have been cut and separated. Makes me wonder if it isn't from a different car altogether?

Good luck!
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'67 Beetle #1 {project car that never made it to the road }
'75 Beetle 1200LS (RHD Japan model) {junked due to frame rot}
'67 Beetle #2 {2019 project car - Wish me luck!}

[john mc]

The front end is from this car , all the spot welds aline up . Still looking for that little bit of aluminum from the trunk.

[john mc]

Hi All
have a question for you , my chassis number is 110441225 . what does the second number / digit represent . ????
regards
john Sydney Australia

[easy e]

Here's info on the part numbering system (includding chassis):
http://www.aircooled.net/vw-type-system/
http://www.aircooled.net/vw-part-numbers-explained/


The front front fresh air grilles indicate 1960+
I believe side view mirrors were located on the front fenders up through '64... your passenger door has a hole for a door mounted mirror ('65+).

1959 & earlier had different fresh air intakes, head lights, tail lights....
Here's one... note the differences mentioned & you can see the ID plate location in the trunk in one of the pics
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=1722388

From: http://www.thesamba.com/vw/archives/info/bugchassisdating.php
"The 3rd digit is the model year, i.e. 5 indicates 1965."
110 = 1960 beetle
But... I'm doubting it's a beetle floor pan:
"Q. Will a Ghia body fit on a beetle floor pan?
A. No the Ghia floor pan is almost 7" wider. The beetle pan will not work. "
from: (Ghia FAQ) http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=67460

Post some pictures of numbers/data plate.

[john mc]

Is it a 1960 or a 1970 beetle .I think it is a 1970 beetle sub frame as it has a ball joint front end and a IRS rear end . Maybe some one along the line fitted the Karmann Ghia floor pan . who knows ???? . Hopefully soon I will be speaking to the original owners who may shed some light on the car.