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john mc Samba Member
Joined: November 08, 2014 Posts: 13 Location: Sydney Australia
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Posted: Sat Nov 08, 2014 4:21 pm Post subject: Engine and chassis numbers |
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Hi All,
I have recently got myself a Karmann Ghia (barn find). The person that I got it from said that it was a 1959 model. I would like to double check this detail.
When I have checked on the internet the chassis number/engine number I come up with nothing. Could anyone suggest a way to verify the year model I was given?
Regards John (Sydney, Australia) |
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ashman40 Samba Member
Joined: February 16, 2007 Posts: 15982 Location: North Florida, USA
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Posted: Sat Nov 08, 2014 7:13 pm Post subject: |
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Did you look here?
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/archives/info/chassisdatingkg.php
For '59 model year look from Aug 1958 thru Jul 1959.
What are the first few digits of your VIN and engine serial#? According to the above the VIN should be between "1 774 681" thru "2 528 667" and engine number "1 937 451" thru "2 156 322" for a '59 model year. _________________ AshMan40
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john mc Samba Member
Joined: November 08, 2014 Posts: 13 Location: Sydney Australia
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Posted: Sat Nov 08, 2014 11:41 pm Post subject: vin number and engine number |
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Thanks Ashman 40
The vin number is 110441225 and the engine number is S8546649 . I'm thinking I have got bit's from different cars . But I was told that the body shell came from the floor pan of this car . ???? mmmm mystery it is . |
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ashman40 Samba Member
Joined: February 16, 2007 Posts: 15982 Location: North Florida, USA
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Posted: Sun Nov 09, 2014 12:11 am Post subject: Re: vin number and engine number |
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john mc wrote: |
The vin number is 110441225 and the engine number is S8546649 . I'm thinking I have got bit's from different cars . But I was told that the body shell came from the floor pan of this car . ???? mmmm mystery it is . |
That VIN is from a Beetle. A 1970 Beetle! Is this the VIN from under the rear seat?
Are the VIN numbers under the rear seat (in front of the shift rod coupler plate) and the one on the plate in the trunk (at the right front inner fender near the spare tire) both the number above? See '59 Ghia Owner's Manual example here:
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/archives/manuals/4_59ghia/8.jpg
I'd expect at least the VIN in the trunk to match the '59 model year range listed above. Otherwise what proof is there that this is actually a '59?
The VIN listing indicates that '59 was the last year for the low headlight light front end. Is this what you are basing the '59 model year on?
Any chance you can post a close up pic of your engine serial number? I couldn't find a reference to an engine serial# that started with "S".
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/archives/info/engine_letters.php
Even the VW engine letter code book only shows S engine codes belong in an Audi:
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/archives/manuals/engine_code_letters.php
I was thinking it could be "AS" but there would then only be 6-digits after the S, not the 7 you have indicated. _________________ AshMan40
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'67 Beetle #1 {project car that never made it to the road }
'75 Beetle 1200LS (RHD Japan model) {junked due to frame rot}
'67 Beetle #2 {2019 project car - Wish me luck!} |
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john mc Samba Member
Joined: November 08, 2014 Posts: 13 Location: Sydney Australia
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Posted: Sun Nov 09, 2014 3:09 am Post subject: chassis and vin number |
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Hi ashman40
When I bought the car it was in bits but was told all the stuff was there . I'm still looking for the vin plate form the trunk . Hope I can find it or I think I'm screwed . As u said who knows what year it is . I have posted some pictures of the car and will post the vin and engine number tomorrow .
Thanks again
john Sydney Australia |
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john mc Samba Member
Joined: November 08, 2014 Posts: 13 Location: Sydney Australia
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Posted: Sun Nov 09, 2014 3:17 am Post subject: chassis and engine numbers .barn find pictures |
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ashman40 Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Nov 09, 2014 3:25 am Post subject: |
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WOW!
You have quite a bit of work cut out for you.
The whole front clip from the windshield to the headlights appears to have been cut and separated. Makes me wonder if it isn't from a different car altogether?
Good luck! _________________ AshMan40
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'67 Beetle #1 {project car that never made it to the road }
'75 Beetle 1200LS (RHD Japan model) {junked due to frame rot}
'67 Beetle #2 {2019 project car - Wish me luck!} |
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john mc Samba Member
Joined: November 08, 2014 Posts: 13 Location: Sydney Australia
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Posted: Sun Nov 09, 2014 11:08 am Post subject: chassis and engine numbers |
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The front end is from this car , all the spot welds aline up . Still looking for that little bit of aluminum from the trunk. |
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john mc Samba Member
Joined: November 08, 2014 Posts: 13 Location: Sydney Australia
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Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2014 3:57 am Post subject: chassis and engine number codes |
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Hi All
have a question for you , my chassis number is 110441225 . what does the second number / digit represent . ????
regards
john Sydney Australia |
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easy e Samba Member
Joined: May 28, 2008 Posts: 3931 Location: 1 hr north of Santa Barbara
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john mc Samba Member
Joined: November 08, 2014 Posts: 13 Location: Sydney Australia
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Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2014 4:15 am Post subject: engine and chassis numbers |
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Is it a 1960 or a 1970 beetle .I think it is a 1970 beetle sub frame as it has a ball joint front end and a IRS rear end . Maybe some one along the line fitted the Karmann Ghia floor pan . who knows ???? . Hopefully soon I will be speaking to the original owners who may shed some light on the car. |
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