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Squareback_Joe
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Hey Kool, really love the conversation and hope to get mine done. I was wondering about a few things like when your friend "chopped" the harness do you still have all the fan relays, dash lights and plug port to check engine problems. Also where did you place the brain as you have your air filter where it would be (I believe that is where it would go for the stock EFI brain)
oh and vlad if you want to send me a good EZ30 or 36 I will be glad to try and stuff it into my squareback instead of my EJ22. The cheapest subi I could find was $500 but has a horible knocking in the engine like something let go inside according to the seller.
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kooldub
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the harness does still have the fan wiring and the plug ports to able to "check engine" but no dash lights. the ECU is behind my back seat, kinda hidden wall on the passenger side where the igniter is mounted...
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vlad01
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Hey Kool, really love the conversation and hope to get mine done. I was wondering about a few things like when your friend "chopped" the harness do you still have all the fan relays, dash lights and plug port to check engine problems. Also where did you place the brain as you have your air filter where it would be (I believe that is where it would go for the stock EFI brain)
oh and vlad if you want to send me a good EZ30 or 36 I will be glad to try and stuff it into my squareback instead of my EJ22. The cheapest subi I could find was $500 but has a horible knocking in the engine like something let go inside according to the seller. |
I don't know where you find 36 engines let alone good 25 engines that cost reasonable.
the prices for 2nd hand suby engines or any jap engines for the matter of fact are pricey for what they are.
I do know crate engines are reasonable, if you can find them. about 4-5k for long block last time I saw one.
found this, absolute bargain! if you get a complete car or front clip, this will be a great basis to build on top of.
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/SUBARU-LEGACY-EZ36-3600...43d22dec3a
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I am square
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Nice work!
Last spring I bought the red one on here..... http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=547640&highlight=subaru
The guy I bought it from did not do the swap, but whoever did, didn't do a clean job. It worked tho. Drove great. I say drove because after a few months I had a blown head gasket. Notorious on the 2.5 DOHCs.
Work got in the way over the summer. But Now I'm finally getting some work done on it. I'm redoing the swap tho, since it was poorly done. The radiator was held in by plumbers tape for goodness sake!
Hopefully I can document some of the "re-build" soon. I took advantage of Subaugears black friday sale. So a 5 speed swap will push the completed project back a little more now. Nevertheless, I'm gonna take my time and do it right!
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ArcticSquare69
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| I plan on swapping a ej22 in my 69 squareback this winter. I am going to use my 4 speed for a transmission. I am hung up on motor mounts. How are your guys engines supported?? |
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I am square
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Easiest option: Make a custom mustache bar using existing mount locations on ea side of the engine bay. Use stock subaru motor mounts on your now custom mustache bar.
There are a few more options I can think of but involve a lot more fab.
My car came with a swing axle configuration. I converted it to IRS by adding control arm brackets to my existing swing axle torsion housing because I wanted to keep the frame horns found on a swing axle torsion housing. Subarugears makes a mounting bracket that you bolt to the frame horns that allows you to use subaru motor mounts. So obviously now I use an IRS trans with this set up.(I did it this way, because it's gonna make the subaru trans swap that much easier by having IRS)
Another option since your car is already IRS is to add frame horns to your IRS axle torsion housing and bolt the subarugears mounting bracket same as above. There is a company out there that makes weld on frame horns (and IRS brackets like I did) Search internet, the companies that sell them will likely taylor to the VW off road community.
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kooldub
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I do not have any engine supports in mine.(swing axle) But as said already, since you have IRS, might be quick and easy to make a custom mustache bar.
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Kai4130
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Cool conversion. I'm a fan as there are not many of use around that have done this. Great job!
Here's my shortened sump. It's a stock sump shortened and budged. Holds the stock amount of oil and the dipstick reads true with no modifications.
My sump is a blatant rip off from ricola racing. Click on the beetle, then engine fitting and half way down the page is the sump build.
http://www.ricola.co.uk/
Mines got a turbo by the way 
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inzel
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Wow you guys did great work. I am planning on doing this to my 69 Fasty before too long as well. I am thinking about going with a turbo 2.5 subi motor though. In the meantime I will just put around in with my stock 1600...
@Kai4130 I love your notch too. Very nicely done
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kooldub
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Kai4130
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Thanks dude.
Here's my build
http://vwkd.com/bb/viewtopic.php?t=2605
Regarding the heater install I found a mini heater made by Smiths. Easily available here in the UK. I cut the fresh air box and the heaters air intakes into the air box. I ducted the oe wind screen demist vents to the heater windscreen output. I know have a fully functional heater both for the can and to demist the wind screen. For my coolant pipes I cut a small entry hole into the top of the gearbox runner and sent my heater coolant pipes through this hole which is cut just below the heater. I had air lock issues at first. My coolant system is totally self bleeding. I have an 8mm line connecting my front radiator to my header tank in the back with the engine. I connected a small 8mm line from my heaters coolant return line to the radiator bleed line. This stopped the airlock I was getting when refilling my coolant.
These cost about £50 for a quality used item over here
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DONGKG
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Joined: August 28, 2006
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Kindo cool conversion and you seemed to enjoy the fasty pretty much. In the Philippines, changing the motor means having it registered as new motor with the Department of Transportation Office. What about there? Does your government require that the motor be registered as the replacement.. Congrats..
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ArcticSquare69
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I was thinking about the mustache bar also. I feel that that will be the easiest. How would the motor want to say up from not having any motor mounts? I feel like it would put too much stress on the tranny mount and screw something up. lol
Sorry for the slow reply, I never had received a notification.
Thank you two for the replies!
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Easiest option: Make a custom mustache bar using existing mount locations on ea side of the engine bay. Use stock subaru motor mounts on your now custom mustache bar.
There are a few more options I can think of but involve a lot more fab.
My car came with a swing axle configuration. I converted it to IRS by adding control arm brackets to my existing swing axle torsion housing because I wanted to keep the frame horns found on a swing axle torsion housing. Subarugears makes a mounting bracket that you bolt to the frame horns that allows you to use subaru motor mounts. So obviously now I use an IRS trans with this set up.(I did it this way, because it's gonna make the subaru trans swap that much easier by having IRS)
Another option since your car is already IRS is to add frame horns to your IRS axle torsion housing and bolt the subarugears mounting bracket same as above. There is a company out there that makes weld on frame horns (and IRS brackets like I did) Search internet, the companies that sell them will likely taylor to the VW off road community. |
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kooldub
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| Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2018 9:17 am Post subject: Re: My 68 fastback subaru ej22 conversion |
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it's been about 4yrs since converting my fasty to Subaru powered. Been really fun to drive. The 2.2L motor has been reliable with good usable power. I did install squareback rear torsion bars that helped the squatting and plan to upgrade and make a few changes this winter but its been a blast to drive.
kris
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Kai4130
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| Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2018 12:32 pm Post subject: Re: My 68 fastback subaru ej22 conversion |
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That’s looking kool!
Have you any idea MPG you are getting from your 2.2? |
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gm4lnch
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| Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2018 10:10 am Post subject: Re: My 68 fastback subaru ej22 conversion |
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Mine gets horrible fuel mileage....but I just finished my swap so my gas pedal still only knows nothing or floored. lol. Kooldub is right even at our altitude these things still have tons of useable power, even in my heavier Subisqaure.
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Kai4130
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| Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2018 10:23 am Post subject: Re: My 68 fastback subaru ej22 conversion |
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That’s nice!
So, I did 2 months of commuting into the city for work. It’s a round trip of 56 miles. With my 2.0 WRX with Subaru gears and I was getting 26.9 (UK)MPG.
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kooldub
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| Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2018 10:16 am Post subject: Re: My 68 fastback subaru ej22 conversion |
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sorry I missed your question kai4130... I don't have any gauges (only temp) but I'm thinking im at or above 30mpg. hope to get some working gauges in it this winter.
Jer... you enjoying it? break any parts yet? 
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