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PostPosted: Sat Nov 22, 2014 10:02 pm    Post subject: Chugging Bug Reply with quote

I have a 1965 beetle with a 1600 sp engine. I timed and adjusted the valves to specs. Fuel filter is clean, and choke all adjusted. The bug chugs when you shift gears. I can't understand why. Could it be a clutch problem? It does shutter at take off but not really bad. I do have an oil leak somewhere that pools a little oil down by the pulley. Any help is appreciated
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 22, 2014 10:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What distributor do you have and what "specs" did you adjust valves and timing to?
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 23, 2014 1:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe check points, & condenser
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 23, 2014 7:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

flyboy161 wrote:
What distributor do you have and what "specs" did you adjust valves and timing to?
My distributor is the 009, timing at 7.5 BTC, valves to .006 and new points not condensor
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 23, 2014 7:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What color is the car?
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 23, 2014 7:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

iowegian wrote:
What color is the car?


Hard to tell, photo is while shade/low light. So could be white, beige, light yellow...
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 23, 2014 9:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What do you mean by "chug"?

The shutter at take off makes me think front transmission mount is failing, bowden tube is not correctly set, or flywheel has cracks, hot spots or oil on it.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 23, 2014 10:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

drscope wrote:
What do you mean by "chug"?

The shutter at take off makes me think front transmission mount is failing, bowden tube is not correctly set, or flywheel has cracks, hot spots or oil on it.
The color I believe is pearl white, original. It does have an oil leak and could be getting onto the clutch.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 23, 2014 12:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Could I have a problem with the choke? I did adjust it and it seemed to run worse after that. Once it warms up it runs better but not completely from the chugging.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 23, 2014 8:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are you static timing it to 7.5 degrees? You should use a timing light. Mark the pulley at 30 degrees BTDC (I downloaded and printed a protractor for this). Hook up the timing light, loosen the distributor clamp, start the car and rev the motor up until the 009 gives you full advance. Using the timing light turn the distributor while the motor is revved up and set it at 30 degrees BTDC. Release the throttle, tighten the clamp and recheck.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2014 7:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

flyboy161 wrote:
Are you static timing it to 7.5 degrees? You should use a timing light. Mark the pulley at 30 degrees BTDC (I downloaded and printed a protractor for this). Hook up the timing light, loosen the distributor clamp, start the car and rev the motor up until the 009 gives you full advance. Using the timing light turn the distributor while the motor is revved up and set it at 30 degrees BTDC. Release the throttle, tighten the clamp and recheck.
I static timed it with a timing light but I did not do the 30 deg BTDC. Is this my culprit?
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2014 7:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

To my thinking, more than likely. What carb are you running. Some people describe the chugging as a hesitation. If you have a light gas pedal foot it might lead to chugging
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2014 7:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just so you know, static timing works on some original distributors, but for 009 dizzies, use the 30 degree all in advance setting at 2500 to 3000 rpm, and let idle timing fall where it may.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2014 8:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

flyboy161 wrote:
To my thinking, more than likely. What carb are you running. Some people describe the chugging as a hesitation. If you have a light gas pedal foot it might lead to chugging
I guess what I mean by chugging is that it runs like its cold. It knocks you back and forth in your seat as you get going after a shift. Smooths out soon thereafter
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2014 8:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Try the timing procedure. We'll go from there
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 16, 2015 2:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not sure if you sorted it but I had the exac same problem as you describe. Mine was a accelerator jet in the carb was squirting onto the side of the carb, rather than straight down the throat.
Look down the carb when you squirt the throttle, it should be a good strong jet of fuel straight down the throat.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 17, 2015 8:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not to be a pessimist, but you could have a bad cylinder/ or cyl. head.
I could just be that you have a worn out engine with one or more low compression readings on your cylinders.
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