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Dynamite_Goat Samba Member
Joined: March 24, 2007 Posts: 135 Location: Julian, CA
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Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2013 7:06 am Post subject: Got some new paint! |
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Picked up the Westy from the paint shop on Saturday. Did all the metal work myself and farmed out the paint in the interest of time. The two-tone was my wife's idea - I wasn't fully on board, but I like it now that I see it. This will be her tailgating/beach bus, so it's going to be a bit of a custom-resto with an eye toward comfort and practical upgrades.
I have all new mechanicals, rubber and exterior trim to go on it. I'm sure I'll need some help to remember where all the Westy parts go.
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Bala Samba Member
Joined: December 04, 2003 Posts: 2613 Location: Austin, TX
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Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2013 7:46 am Post subject: |
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That looks pretty good! _________________ 1976 Westy
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Dynamite_Goat Samba Member
Joined: March 24, 2007 Posts: 135 Location: Julian, CA
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Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2013 9:57 am Post subject: |
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Bala wrote: |
That looks pretty good! |
Thanks! I'm pretty happy with it. |
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9mmMike Samba Member
Joined: March 13, 2012 Posts: 160 Location: SE PA
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Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2013 1:34 pm Post subject: |
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Looking forward to seeing this one go together. Nice choice on the color. Looks great so far.
Did you put a new nose on there? _________________ 1974 Thing - x-Acapulco
1989 Intermeccanica Roadster
1972 SCCA GT4 Beetle
1971 Chianti Red / Pastel white Bus
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VDubTech Samba Member
Joined: December 29, 2002 Posts: 9142 Location: Syracuse, NY
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Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2013 2:15 pm Post subject: |
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9mmMike wrote: |
Did you put a new nose on there? |
Obviously. _________________ First Trip in the RustyBus:
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=279077&highlight=
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a measurement of your rod would be extremely useful. |
notchboy wrote: |
my dad wasnt a belittling cock when he tought me how to wrench on cars. |
EverettB wrote: |
One photo = good for reference.
10 photos = douchebaggery |
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Dynamite_Goat Samba Member
Joined: March 24, 2007 Posts: 135 Location: Julian, CA
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Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2013 2:22 pm Post subject: |
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9mmMike wrote: |
Did you put a new nose on there? |
Hmm. How could you tell?
I thought about cutting that out, but it defeats the purpose of the new nose. Plus it won't be noticeable once the emblem is added. Still better than trying to save this mess:
The thing had been hit and poorly repaired at least 3x. |
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babysnakes Samba Member
Joined: August 19, 2008 Posts: 7106
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Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2013 3:59 pm Post subject: |
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I'm with you on the yellow and white. I'll not show my wife the pics because she would be all over "Lets paint the '72 and the Westy like that". It does look good though. |
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Dynamite_Goat Samba Member
Joined: March 24, 2007 Posts: 135 Location: Julian, CA
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Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2014 9:12 am Post subject: |
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So it's been a while, but that doesn't mean that I haven't been working on this thing. After evaluating the questionable condition of the stock motor and rebuild costs, the direction of the project took a bit of a turn and this now resides in the engine compartment:
I went with a 2.4L Ecotec VVT out of a 2008 Cobalt. Thought about the Subaru, but I'm already familiar with the GM stuff and really like this motor. I'm also shooting to make it California smog legal and figured I would have a better chance with this motor. All of the stock systems remain operable, including the drive-by-wire throttle, EVAP controls, catalytic converter, internal fuel pump and fuel pressure sensor system. I had to make most of the wiring harness and everything else from scratch, but it now looks like this:
Not much room in there for everything, but it all fits:
So it runs great and now I just need to finish up the cooling system and exhaust, then get it over to the referee for an inspection. Hopefully within the next month. Note that there was no cutting of the rear apron, removing the gas tank or banging up the stock firewall. Only slight trimming to the rear flange to allow room for the radiator hose.
Quite a learning curve on this one since there's not much guidance out there for this swap. |
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Dynamite_Goat Samba Member
Joined: March 24, 2007 Posts: 135 Location: Julian, CA
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Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2014 7:55 am Post subject: |
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Time for an update. Got sidetracked for about six months, but now making slow but steady progress on this one. The motor and transmission have been in and out twice to make up new mounts and install a better in-tank fuel pump, but now everything is sorted and almost ready to go. Just need to finish up the front suspension and brakes before its maiden voyage.
Here's a video of the Ecotec. Note the stock evap canister and smog legal intake stuffed in the right hand corner. I'll be making a trip to the smog referee shortly to have the whole set up certified (assuming I can get through all the OBD2 readiness tests once its driving).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qgZrP3fc9H0 |
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Thrasher22 Samba Member
Joined: October 05, 2010 Posts: 858 Location: Calgary, Canada
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Bala Samba Member
Joined: December 04, 2003 Posts: 2613 Location: Austin, TX
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Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2014 9:10 am Post subject: |
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That sounds/looks good. Nice work! _________________ 1976 Westy
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westcoastmarek Samba Member
Joined: September 13, 2011 Posts: 333 Location: Brentwood Bay, BC
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Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2014 11:20 am Post subject: |
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Nice! I want that in my bus!!
What's the clearance like under the oil pan? _________________ 1979 Westy Auto
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1979 VW bus, 2L FI, now with a rivi top
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fROMOHIO Samba Member
Joined: July 25, 2014 Posts: 73 Location: OH/NY
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Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2014 12:15 pm Post subject: |
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WOW! that's great! Wish you did a step-by-step on the removal of that engine from the donor car, and the install into the bus! You know, because I'm sure you have nothing better to do than appease us, the curious masses! HA!
Did you use a Kennedy plate? _________________ '72 Bay Window Westy
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Dynamite_Goat Samba Member
Joined: March 24, 2007 Posts: 135 Location: Julian, CA
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Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2014 5:55 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for the compliments! Ground clearance is a solid 10" at the oil pan and about 8.5" at the exhaust. I could've tucked the exhaust higher but needed to keep the catalytic converter.
I would've kept a better photo diary but I've been making this up as I go and it is literally one step forward and two steps back. Nothing fit as planned the first time around. That said, I could easily duplicate this set-up and it is even easier if not going the smog-legal route. I did use the Kennedy adapter plate, but moved the entire motor/trans assembly back 2" to clear the firewall without cutting. I modified the stock tranny hanger but would probably make an engine cradle the next time around. Wiring was a complete bitch but again would be 10x easier if not keeping all the smog stuff. I'm using a Mini gas pedal assembly for the drive-by-wire since it is bottom hinged just like stock. Tons more information available if anyone is contemplating this swap.
I expect some criticisms on the radiator/fan set up, but I'm confident I have that figured out following some extensive R&D. The key is to keep the hot air out of the engine compartment, so don't assume that the fans are pullers. There's more to the set-up (but no Porsche parts). This passed testing with flying colors but if these fans don't work as planned in the real world then they go under the belly.
Any questions? Let me know. |
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skills@eurocarsplus Samba Peckerhead
Joined: January 01, 2007 Posts: 16863 Location: sticksville, ct.
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Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2014 6:00 pm Post subject: |
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Dynamite_Goat wrote: |
I expect some criticisms on the radiator/fan set up, but I'm confident I have that figured out following some extensive R&D. The key is to keep the hot air out of the engine compartment, so don't assume that the fans are pullers. There's more to the set-up (but no Porsche parts). This passed testing with flying colors but if these fans don't work as planned in the real world then they go under the belly.
Any questions? Let me know. |
having been there/done that I am interested to see your results. if you need someone to bounce ideas off of, pm me. I have learned more about that kind of stuff to last me a lifetime.
cool swap. hope it all works out for you _________________
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my reason for switching to subaru is my german car was turning chinese so i said fuck it and went japanese....... |
Jake Raby wrote: |
Thanks for the correction. I used to be a nice guy, then I ruined it by exposing myself to the public. |
Brian wrote: |
Also the fact that people are agreeing with Skills, it's a turn of events for samba history |
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Dynamite_Goat Samba Member
Joined: March 24, 2007 Posts: 135 Location: Julian, CA
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Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2014 7:51 pm Post subject: |
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skills@eurocarsplus wrote: |
having been there/done that I am interested to see your results. if you need someone to bounce ideas off of, pm me. I have learned more about that kind of stuff to last me a lifetime.
cool swap. hope it all works out for you |
Thanks. I learned a lot from your posts. I'll let you know how the cooling works out in the real world. |
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skills@eurocarsplus Samba Peckerhead
Joined: January 01, 2007 Posts: 16863 Location: sticksville, ct.
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Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2014 7:54 pm Post subject: |
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I will save you some trouble.....
after your first 2 days of sleepless nights trying to make it work....go under the bus _________________
gprudenciop wrote: |
my reason for switching to subaru is my german car was turning chinese so i said fuck it and went japanese....... |
Jake Raby wrote: |
Thanks for the correction. I used to be a nice guy, then I ruined it by exposing myself to the public. |
Brian wrote: |
Also the fact that people are agreeing with Skills, it's a turn of events for samba history |
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Dynamite_Goat Samba Member
Joined: March 24, 2007 Posts: 135 Location: Julian, CA
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Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2014 8:26 pm Post subject: |
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Ha! I'm already at a week of sleepless nights to get it to this point. I'll let you know how it works out and I'm happy to share if its a success. |
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Brian Samba Moderator
Joined: May 28, 2012 Posts: 8340 Location: Oceanside
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Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2014 10:33 pm Post subject: |
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those are some pretty shoes there. Whats the combo? _________________ Wash your hands
'69 Bug
'68 Baja Truck
'71 Bug
'68 Camper
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richparker Samba Member
Joined: November 24, 2011 Posts: 6981 Location: Durango, CO
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Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2014 10:45 pm Post subject: |
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Brian wrote: |
those are some pretty shoes there. Whats the combo? |
15" Benz rims and KOs. Those ain't no Graibbers.
After all the failed attempts with the radiator in that location with subie swaps. It will be intresting to see how hot it gets.
You build is rad and I hope the best for it! _________________ __________
’71 Westy build
Adventure thread
’65 Deluxe Build
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