Notchback front brakes

Floydilian · Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2005 8:57 pm Post subject: Notchback front brakes

Hi everybody -

Thanks for all the help in getting the notch's dual mc in - it works great and has now brought me to the front brakes, which are in need of some work. I have got a set of front brake shoes which I thought were correct, but when I took the shoes of the car they didn't match. What I am wondering is, are the shoes that were on the car correct for this year? Judging by the very unmodifiedness (not a word) of the car, I would assume that they are original, but I would hate to go find new shoes only to learn that I had the wrong backing plate, etc.

Here is a pic of the shoes that came off the car:

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Here are the shoes that I have, which look different and are too large. Maybe a later model year?

Just in case, here is a shot of the backing plate and wheel cylinders:

Thanks for your opinions. If I do need different shoes, does anybody have a set? Wink

Ben
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Russ Wolfe · Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2005 9:16 pm Post subject:

What year is your car???
The shoes you bought look like the ones from my '64 T-34.
http://classicvw.org/gallery/Ghia-Progress/IMG_0012

But your springs are different than mine. Nothing else, have your old shoes rebuilt. That is what I am doing with mine.

I think this is a question for Notchboy. The early T-3 brakes expert.
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Floydilian · Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2005 10:06 pm Post subject:

The ones in your pic look a lot like the new ones that I have and less like the ones I took off the car! Its a 1963 Notchback.

Thanks!

Ben
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ibjack · Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2005 1:27 am Post subject:

Ben, the ones that came off the car are the correct ones for the '63's. The new ones that you bought look like the 64-65 variety. Keep looking for the correct ones, they're out there. BTW are there more pictures of your car???
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notchboy · Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2005 3:35 pm Post subject:

The ones that came off are "correct". Its as you stated the new ones holes do not line up with the 61-63 style spring used. They changed the arrangement in 64. You can take your old ones and have then re-shoed. Alot easier than tracking new ones. You see alot of pads on German Ebay all the time just for this aplication. The hard part is finding an old school shop that can do the work, but they are out there. If you purchase pads, make sure they are 50mm.

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Russ Wolfe · Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2005 4:25 pm Post subject:

If you want, you could send them here:

City Brake and Clutch
3018 SW 9th St.
Des Moines, IA 50315
515-246-8672
800-532-1112

They are the people that found me my one year only bosch distributor caps.
The one guy behind the counter is an Ex VW parts man.
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60DoubleTurd · Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2005 5:17 pm Post subject:

mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
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Erik G · Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2005 5:32 pm Post subject:

when I did my 64 I noticed the fronts were the same as the rears. maybe a mistake, but they worked good. I never had a problem. I did drill new holes to match the old ones that came off. wierd
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notchboy · Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2005 6:54 pm Post subject:

I have noticed that too about the fronts on a 64-65. I never wanted to say they were inerchangeable as the fronts should be 50mm with the rears only being 40 to 45 mm wide? I have to double check the parts book tonight because I wana say 50mm will fit the rears as there looks to be enough room. Russ you know off the top of your head? Because also if you look at the new ones above they have the slit for the park brake rod. Good call Erik.
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notchboy · Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2005 6:55 pm Post subject:

Floydilian · Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2005 7:56 pm Post subject:

Here is a couple more pics. Very Happy

I still haven't gotten any new shoes for the fronts. Time to call Martin Razz

Enjoy! I sure am!!!

Ben
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