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mdvanderploeg Samba Member
Joined: November 06, 2011 Posts: 126 Location: Raleigh, NC
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Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2014 8:08 pm Post subject: Cable splice |
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Now that I'm getting close to the end of my '50 restoration, the many boxes of parts that came with the car have dwindled down to a manageable amount, so I was able to do a final inventory. I mainly discovered a bunch of parts that are for ovals and Karmann Ghias, but I also discovered some gems, including the original trunk latch release knob & cable.
Unfortunately, my excitement was squelched when I tried to install the cable & found it was 2" too short. So, I've spent the evening hunting for a compression splice of some sort. I found plenty of swage style fittings that are two joined together side by side tubes. What I'd like to find is an in-line compression splice, similar to what's at the end of the accelerator cable, but would have a hole on both ends for cable attachment, instead of just one.
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johnshenry Samba Member
Joined: September 21, 2001 Posts: 9364 Location: Northwood, NH USA
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Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2014 8:21 pm Post subject: |
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Hmmmm. Interesting challenge. I presume there is enough open, exposed cable down near the latch that such a splice won't be in the tubing?
I once replicated the heater box cable ends by cutting a section of a fairly thick nail, drilling the end with a "wire" bit about the size of the cable, slipping it in, then crimping it down with vice grips. You may be able to do something like that by drilling a nail segment at both ends?
I would be concerned about it popping off and you getting locked out of the trunk though. The old school remedy for that was to cut your hood handle in half on the outside and just spin the halves off thereby releasing the hood...... not something I would want to do with the pretty expensive, cast split hood handles
The other thing you may be able to do is just tack up the extension with a MIG welder. Again though, I'd be nervous of a failure.... _________________ John Henry
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mdvanderploeg Samba Member
Joined: November 06, 2011 Posts: 126 Location: Raleigh, NC
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Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2014 8:31 pm Post subject: |
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Unfortunately, the splice would be inside the tube. If you look at the compression fitting that attaches the knob to the cable, which has the right outside diameter to fit inside the tube, I was thinking that there might be a similar compression fitting that could act as a splice between two pieces of cable. It's a very similar compression fitting as the one at the end of the accelerator cable....again, I was thinking that there might be a similar fitting that has a hole on each end rather than just one.
I hate to have an original split hood latch cable go to waste, so would really like to figure out a way to make it work. I share your fear of the cable breaking & having no way to unlatch the hood. But, if the compression connection is good enough to attach the handle to the cable, I was thinking that it would be good enough to join two cables together. |
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johnshenry Samba Member
Joined: September 21, 2001 Posts: 9364 Location: Northwood, NH USA
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Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2014 9:30 pm Post subject: |
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The nail shank splice might work inside the tubing. You could test it by seeing how much strain it would take... and if you latch was well adjusted and lubed, maybe it would work pretty good. _________________ John Henry
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usariemen Samba Member
Joined: August 28, 2004 Posts: 1745 Location: Germany
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Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2014 11:02 pm Post subject: |
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How about finding a proper steel wire and replace it all the way.
Fixing it at the handle might be easier than having it to be extended somewhere on the way. _________________ Master of my domain! |
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virtanen Samba Member
Joined: January 08, 2006 Posts: 1462 Location: Finland
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Abscate Samba Member
Joined: October 05, 2014 Posts: 22670 Location: NYC/Upstate/ROW
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Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2014 1:54 am Post subject: |
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You could easily fabricate an inline splice from a side by side splice by cutting it in half with a Dremel tool. A marine store for sailboat rigging will carry a huge array of wire splice tools bad supplies. _________________ .ssS! |
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sunroof Samba Member
Joined: October 06, 2006 Posts: 1774 Location: Winnipeg
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Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2014 7:11 am Post subject: |
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Wht not just twist the ends together and solder them?
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W1K1 Samba Member
Joined: March 04, 2004 Posts: 4921 Location: Southern AB
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Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2014 8:48 am Post subject: |
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I have silver soldered brass tube from the RC model store to extend a heater cable end before. That worked well. I filled the tube with silver solder with the wire in the tube. _________________ http://www.thesamba.com/vw/archives/manuals/jim_martin_engine_build.php
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Abscate Samba Member
Joined: October 05, 2014 Posts: 22670 Location: NYC/Upstate/ROW
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Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2014 4:27 pm Post subject: |
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W1K1 wrote: |
I have silver soldered brass tube from the RC model store to extend a heater cable end before. That worked well. I filled the tube with silver solder with the wire in the tube. |
You can also buy an inline swage at any marine store too. I brain cramped on this one when I posted above. Common application on a boat is installation of lifelines _________________ .ssS! |
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mdvanderploeg Samba Member
Joined: November 06, 2011 Posts: 126 Location: Raleigh, NC
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Posted: Sat Dec 20, 2014 5:33 pm Post subject: |
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I ended up doing a combination of the suggestions above. I put the two ends of wire (original and new extension) through a compression fitting (looks like a figure 8 if viewed on end) with enough tail sticking out from each end to twist around the other wire. Seems really tight. I yanked on it way harder than the force needed to pop the hood with no sign of the splice being stressed. Thanks to all who provided opinions. |
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