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PostPosted: Mon Dec 15, 2014 6:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not the Solex 34 Pict 3 that I expected to see.....to replace or not to replace, that is the question..... Smile Since this was made for a single port motor, I think I'll try to track down a working 34 pict 3....

I put this one up in the classifieds on thesamba.com and kentuckyhotwheels.com

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 15, 2014 8:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's not a Solex 34 PICT 3. It's an H30/31.

Or ... maybe I misunderstood you're meaning.

Keep the pictures coming along.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 15, 2014 9:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tim Donahoe wrote:
That's not a Solex 34 PICT 3. It's an H30/31.

Or ... maybe I misunderstood you're meaning.

Keep the pictures coming along.

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No, it's not a 34 pict 3, that's what I want to get... Smile
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 16, 2014 5:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can found plenty of carbs in the classifieds just type: 34 pict 3 in the search. Looking good Brother, keep it coming.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 16, 2014 7:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Better even than the classifieds - go to volkzbitz.com and buy a professionally rebuilt German one. Can't go wrong.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 16, 2014 10:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I made the mistake of buying a used German Solex 34 PICT 3 from The Samba Classifieds. It looked very pretty in the picture.

I opened the box and the first thing I noticed was vacuum port on the left side of the carb (for my SVDA vacuum can) was plugged with some white substance--like caulk. I cleaned that out, then figured I'd just go ahead and rebuild the carb.

Money spent to buy the carb. More money to buy the rebuild kit.

I rebuilt the carb, used an adapter (to clear my alternator), and the accelerator pump linkage still didn't clear the alternator (the carb had the generator-style linkage). Also, the throttle-shaft bearings were leaking fuel--and air, going the other way, I suppose.

Fed up, I did what I should have done to begin with: I sent the carb off to Volkzbitz.

I should have bought one from him to begin with--but live and learn.

Anyway, I got the carb back and all is well with the world.

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 16, 2014 11:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Luckily, I have a friend that has a spare Solex 34 Pict 3..... Smile
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 16, 2014 11:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just realized when reading another thread that part of my hoover bit is missing....Crap...anybody got a spare you want to sell or trade.... Smile

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 17, 2014 12:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This thread has a drawing of the hoover bit dimensions, should you decide to try to cobble onto the piece you have:

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=105542
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 17, 2014 1:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Awesomepowdercoat.com has Hoover bits.

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 17, 2014 2:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Runchman, unfortunately, I don't have the part that is broken, so I'll have to buy a replacement. Tim, thanks for the heads up. Will get one ordered a.s.a.p....I need to figure out exactly which tins I can reuse and which ones will have to be replaced. Do one bulk order. Since this will be a summer time car only, do you guys think it's necessary for the thermostat and dog house fins? Just wondering...
Started prepping the left and right deflector tins, getting them ready for paint. Also installed the new oil strainer and oil strainer cover. Still waiting for my ring compressor to arrive in the mail so I get the jugs and heads back on. Was hoping it’d be here today, but no such luck. Hopefully it’ll be here tomorrow or Friday so I can get this buttoned up this weekend.

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 17, 2014 4:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.ebay.com/itm/VW-Original-Type-1-Oil-Coo...mp;vxp=mtr
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biga1969 wrote:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/VW-Original-Type-1-Oil-Coo...mp;vxp=mtr


Thanks... Smile
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 17, 2014 9:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Watched a couple episodes of American Picker tonight and got motivated to do a little prep and paint. Finished prepping and painting the left and right deflector tins, then followed up with the alternator shroud. Paint on the shroud looks glossy, but it was still wet. I’m painting everything semi-gloss Rustoleum x2 for engines. Everything gets 3 coats with ample drying time in between. I’ll take another pic once it dries. Also contacted a couple of vendors about a replacement hoover bit. Sucks that such a small part is so expensive. Oh well, such is life!

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 19, 2014 10:38 pm    Post subject: Dilemma and Decisions Reply with quote

OK, so I sorta ran into a dilemma tonight. My goal tonight was to get the jugs and heads installed, test fit some engine tins and admire my hard work. Before I go any further, for those of you who have never done anything like this before, invest the six dollars and buy a ring compressor. Makes getting the jugs over the pistons so much easier. Truly a invaluable piece of metal. So, back to tonight. I have preached to my kids for many years, don’t assume anything. Check, check and double check. Well, tonight, I ate my own words. As I had mentioned in a previous post, the engine in my Beetle had been rebuilt in the recent past. The previous owner didn’t know exactly when, but he knew that he had been. Every part of the break down of the engine indicated that indeed, it had been rebuilt recently. No carbon on the pistons or heads, valve seats looked good, etc. One head that I removed had a broken cooling fin. Nothing major, but it bugged me. So I went ahead and purchased another head from another VW enthusiast on thesamba.com. This was a mistake. I assumed that the engine was for the most part, stock. I put the head with the broken cooling fin in the classified ads. Luckily, I didn’t sell it because I had it listed as a stock head for a 85.5mm piston. So, when I started putting things back together, I quickly realized that the jugs did not fit into the stock head that I bought to replace the one with the broken cooling fin. I broke out the calipers and started measuring. The outside diameter of my pistons measured 92mm. The inside diameter of the heads measured 98mm. It was apparent that there was no way the new/used head that I purchased was going to work. So I went ahead and put one side of the motor together with the head that I intended to reuse, put the jugs on the other side and left it at that. So now, I don’t know what to do. Go ahead and use the head that came with the motor that has the broken cooling fin. Get the one I bought machined to work with my current setup or bite the bullet and buy new pistons, jugs and heads (which I don’t want to do). I don’t know of any machine shops in my area that could machine the head that I bought. So for now I’m stumped. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. So, with one side of the motor put back together, I did get to test fit some tins that have already been prepped and painted. I have a new alternator stand that should be here next week and I’ll continue to prep the other tins that I’ll be re-using. I’m really bummed that the head I bought doesn’t fit. But it’s my own fault. I should’ve measured everything before I bought it. So right now, here are my options.

1. Keep my current setup, re-use the head with the broken cooling fin.
2. Get the new/used head that I bought machined to work with my current setup.
3. Buy another stock head, pistons and jugs to work with the head that I already purchased.

Is it even possible to buy and head that's already machined for my jugs??????

Decisions, decisions, decisions…..your input and suggestions are appreciated.

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 20, 2014 5:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

find a machine shop, there has to be one somewhere and have the head machined to accept the 92mm piston, it would be a lot cheaper than buying a new head. This is just my opinion. Good luck.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 20, 2014 12:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

After last nights discovery that the new/used head that I bought would have to be machined to work with my current setup, my motivation to work on the Beetle was pretty much nil this morning. However, I did receive my aftermarket alternator stand from chircoestore.com in the mail and decided to test fit it. The stand looks great, however, while test fitting it, I realized that there is no way my deflector tin will fit with the way the breather tube is sitting. Don’t really know what’s causing the issue as the alternator stand looks pretty much the same as the OEM stand. So I’m wondering if the deflector tin is the problem or the breather tube itself. I know that some breather tubes are straight and don’t have curve on the bottom that mine does. Guess I could just cut the curved part away and see if that works or order an aftermarket oil filler. More decisions! I think it’s time to step away from this project for a few days….

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Update: Issue resolved with the breather tube.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 24, 2014 8:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In between putting Christmas gifts together this morning, I managed to get a couple of things done on the Beetle. First and foremost, I found a person who may be able to help me get my head machined for the larger jugs. He no longer has the tooling to do it, but has some connections that will hopefully put me on the right path. If not, I’ve got a couple other prospects that may be able to help me out. Regardless, the next step is to get this head machined to accept the jugs for this 1835 build. I was also able to get the alternator fan shroud painted as well as the dual port intakes cleaned and test fitted. I’ve decided on which doghouse I’ll be re-using, so I got it de-greased and ready for prep. The alternator fan was also cleaned and ready to re-use. All in all, a pretty productive Christmas Eve. Here’s wishing all my VW enthusiast a very happy holiday season….Merry Christmas all!

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Also got the valve covers prepped and ready to install. Loved the way they turned out.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 25, 2014 8:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It looks like you are coming along very nicely. The valve covers do look really nice, what color and type of paint did you use?
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 25, 2014 10:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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It looks like you are coming along very nicely. The valve covers do look really nice, what color and type of paint did you use?


Thanks....it's a graphite grey engine paint....
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