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SkyDawgVW Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2014 11:05 am Post subject: Deep dish wheels...school me |
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I am looking to purchase a pair of 7" widened smoothies for my '63 bug. Will the rims bolt up to a stock drum? Or are spacers needed? If so what size?
What tire size generally goes well with 7" widened smoothies? _________________ 1961 SWR Kombi |
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rwf8ball Samba Member
Joined: April 30, 2004 Posts: 234
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Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2014 9:20 pm Post subject: deep dish wheels |
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7" wide wheels will bolt up to a stock wide five drum. I am puting 7's on my 63 as well, Iam useing 225/60/15 tires but I have"nt put them on yet, I"ll let you know how they fit. |
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ALB Samba Member
Joined: August 05, 2008 Posts: 3480 Location: beautiful suburban Wet Coast of Canada
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Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2014 8:21 am Post subject: |
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A 215/60- 15 (25.1" tall) fits a 6- 7 1/2" rim, is closer to stock VW height and will be a little easier to fit than the wider tire; exactly where it sits in relation to the fender edge will depend on the offset of the wheel. The 225/60 is also a little taller (25 1/2- 25 3/4", which is not that much), but if you aren't running a lot of power you may feel it.
Depending on the offset of the wheel, you may or may not need spacers; you'll have to mount them and see. Al _________________ On a lifelong mission to prove (much to my wife's dismay) that Immaturity is Forever!!
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rwf8ball Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2014 11:25 am Post subject: DEEP DISH WHEELS |
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The offset is key. The stock offset is 3.75" so if you stick to that you should be fine. |
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theastronaut Samba Member
Joined: November 19, 2007 Posts: 1629 Location: Anderson, SC
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Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2014 3:38 pm Post subject: Re: DEEP DISH WHEELS |
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7" with stock backspacing on a short axle car will put the wheel lip 1/2" away from the fender lip with. At least that's what my '64 measures with 5 degrees of camber. You'll have to stretch the tire to keep from rubbing, like 185 wide. No way a 205 or 225 would ever fit if the backspacing is stock. You could run more backspacing if you wanted a wider tire. _________________ Strive for perfection in everything. Take the best that exist and make it better. If it doesn't exist, create it. Accept nothing nearly right or good enough."
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esde Samba Member
Joined: October 20, 2007 Posts: 5927 Location: central rust belt
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Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2014 7:09 am Post subject: Re: DEEP DISH WHEELS |
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rwf8ball wrote: |
The offset is key. The stock offset is 3.75" so if you stick to that you should be fine. |
Incorrect, the stock wide 5 type 1 smoothie backspace is 3.25".
Some people have claimed to have run 4" backspace on early "short" type 1 axles and stock drums, but I suspect they are measuring incorrectly. I ran 8" wide rims, with 3.75" backspace, and 225/55/15 under stock fenders. The tires always rubbed a clean spot on the spring plate, and fender lip. Room for a credit card and no more.. |
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rwf8ball Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2014 12:05 am Post subject: 7" wide wheels |
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Here's my 7" wide wheels on my 1963 bug.
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VWMIke82 Samba Member
Joined: June 10, 2008 Posts: 70 Location: Lancaster, CA
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Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2014 10:23 am Post subject: |
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What size tires are you running rwf8ball? _________________ 1959 VW Bug Sedan
I chopped it up for Baja and then put it back to stock...
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rwf8ball Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Dec 25, 2014 5:55 pm Post subject: |
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225/60/15 |
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SkyDawgVW Samba Member
Joined: October 20, 2010 Posts: 253 Location: Warner Robins, GA
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Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2015 7:57 pm Post subject: |
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Here's what I finally ended up with:
175/55 on 6 inch widened on the front
205/60 on 7 inch widened on the back
_________________ 1961 SWR Kombi |
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turbotype1 Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2015 7:44 pm Post subject: |
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SkyDawgVW wrote: |
Here's what I finally ended up with:
175/55 on 6 inch widened on the front
205/60 on 7 inch widened on the back
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Were these wheels built with stock backspacing? _________________
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SkyDawgVW Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2015 12:15 pm Post subject: |
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turbotype1 wrote: |
SkyDawgVW wrote: |
Here's what I finally ended up with:
175/55 on 6 inch widened on the front
205/60 on 7 inch widened on the back
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Were these wheels built with stock backspacing? |
Yes, I believe they were.
The rear wheels were purchased through thesamba. _________________ 1961 SWR Kombi |
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Cali_Army_Guy Samba Member
Joined: March 19, 2015 Posts: 2094 Location: Stockton, CA
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Posted: Sun Jul 17, 2016 7:14 pm Post subject: |
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SkyDawgVW wrote: |
Here's what I finally ended up with:
175/55 on 6 inch widened on the front
205/60 on 7 inch widened on the back
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I know this is an old post but this is the exact setup I'm going with. Is your beam narrowed 4" or 6"? _________________ 2015 VW Passat Wolfsburg Edition
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ridehard Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2016 2:07 am Post subject: Re: 7" wide wheels |
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rwf8ball wrote: |
Here's my 7" wide wheels on my 1963 bug.
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I do like the deep dish rims!! what colour are you spraying the car to go with it??? |
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meatball74 Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2016 10:25 am Post subject: |
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Cali_Army_Guy wrote: |
SkyDawgVW wrote: |
Here's what I finally ended up with:
175/55 on 6 inch widened on the front
205/60 on 7 inch widened on the back
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I know this is an old post but this is the exact setup I'm going with. Is your beam narrowed 4" or 6"? |
and can you tell me if the rear was narrowed at all? I have a 4" narrowed beam but am trying to figure out how wide I can go in the rear with stock offsets and not rub my fenders. Mine is fully bagged too so need to be able to tuck the rears. |
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