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stevensj13 Samba Member
Joined: October 03, 2011 Posts: 715 Location: Willow Spring, NC and Saugerties, NY
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Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2014 2:50 pm Post subject: Bought 2 more, 73 and a 76 |
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Hey guys, I haven't posted in a while but I'm back since I just bought myself two more bugs. I got rid of my last bug, my '67 Baja last July and of course I can't go bugless for more than a few months so I relapsed and bought number 8 and number 9 of bugs I've owned . They came as a package deal, the yellow car is a '73 standard with a running 1600 DP and does yard drive. It needs a little pan work on the rear passenger side but nothing too major. I believe this car was restored in the 90s as the paint still shines, and in other places shows that it was a repaint. All the door cards, dash, gauges, steering wheel ect, the little stuff shows to be in nice shape but the front seats are garbage. Back seat is reasonable driver quality. The car has 4 panasonic 6x9's, two in the back two in kick panels up front which sound nice thru the ancient Pioneer digital cassette deck. This one will be my new daily driver. The other car is a 1976 Fuely bug that was converted (very nicely) to a carb. Right now theres no spark so I have to figure that one out, and the brake line from the front to the rear is rotted and has taken out some floor panel with it . This car is not pretty, the hood is garbage and the floors are pretty trashed but the rest is solid believe it or not. It may become a parts car, or I may replace the floors and brakes and drive it too. Plan for the yellow car is go up 2 inner splines on the rear spring plates and run Monroe MA756 air shocks in the front with a torsion delete kit with seperate lines, and next spring it'll be getting a turbo on the stock 1600 with a holley 4 barrel. This car will be driven thru winter so I will need functioning heat, that is a priority. Anyway, I'll be updating this thread as things progress. Heres some pics for now
Here they are the night they were delivered, kinda neat that these two haven't left each other since the 90s despite going to 3 different owners
Yellow car, running and driving off the trailer. Still needs an exhaust, some brake adjustments, fuel system tune up and some carb issues delt with
And now the bad. I' made up some partial templates to get a basic idea of what I need to cut out but I'm probably gonna go with a pre made half pan eventually
And now heres the '76. Shes a bit more rusty and a bit more dusty
Damn! I missed it
Anyone know what the hell this seat is out of?
Came with what I think is some original jack stuff
I pulled the tank out shortly after this and it is mint inside luckily
_________________ Current: '73 standard (yellow) '76 standard (rust/gold )
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stevensj13 Samba Member
Joined: October 03, 2011 Posts: 715 Location: Willow Spring, NC and Saugerties, NY
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Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2014 2:53 pm Post subject: |
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Also, anyone know if this is the factory fuel pump? Its on the '76 which was converted from FI to carb. It is running just like that to the hard line and then directly to the carb. Anyone know what pressure these run at?
_________________ Current: '73 standard (yellow) '76 standard (rust/gold )
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1971 Super
1968 bug on CJ 5 chassis w/ super swampers
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Mr.Duncan Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2014 3:00 pm Post subject: |
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That is not a factory fuel pump.
Since its been converted from FI to carb, someone installed a tiny little electric pump, since the FI blocks do not have a hole for a mechanical fuel pump.
Those range in PSI, Most of the time, a regulator is needed to get the correct 3psi for carbs. _________________ (Owner) www.vintagecarleds.com
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stevensj13 Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2014 6:47 pm Post subject: |
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Mr.Duncan wrote: |
That is not a factory fuel pump.
Since its been converted from FI to carb, someone installed a tiny little electric pump, since the FI blocks do not have a hole for a mechanical fuel pump.
Those range in PSI, Most of the time, a regulator is needed to get the correct 3psi for carbs. |
Thats what I figured. I noticed the lack of a mechanical pump or cutout for it so I figured it was the original FI engine rather than a swapped in carb engine. I thought I'd find an electric pump under the tank and sure enough, I did. I'll test the fuel pressure but I know this car was a daily driver in its current configuration for years (15+ years ago) so I'm guessing the pump was the correct pressure but guessing doesn't prevent fires so I'll check it .
djkeev wrote: |
Congratulations?
Looking at your photos just make me tired........ Ain't going there again!
Best of luck and enjoy!
Dave |
Haha thanks. Yeah the brown car is rough but really the yellow car just needs an exhaust and a bit of TLC to be a driver. Thursday I'm going to pick up a lightly used header and single muffler for $50 so I can run the car without waking the neighborhood. _________________ Current: '73 standard (yellow) '76 standard (rust/gold )
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stevensj13 Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2014 1:18 pm Post subject: |
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Alrighty so, update time. I picked up a bunch of my parts out of storage and I also found this old header that someone butchered and put a glasspack on with some real garbage welds and hardware store bends came on a Baja I used to own. So, I cut it up to make a new exhaust for the yellow '73. I still need to tack weld it and bolt it on to check fitment with the rear apron which I need to wait for my auto dim welding helmet to charge, which I need sun for, which I don't have . Anyway, I found this rather strange thing connected to my spark plug wire and was hoping someone could identify it? Theres no tach or aftermarket gauges in the car, it looks factory and has a whitish greyish wire coming off of it that goes into a harness. I've had 3 '73 bugs and never seen this before. Any ideas?
Heres the wire I'm talking about
Heres the custom crappy exhaust in progress
_________________ Current: '73 standard (yellow) '76 standard (rust/gold )
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1973 Super (x2)
1971 Super
1968 bug on CJ 5 chassis w/ super swampers
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Mr.Duncan Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2014 1:21 pm Post subject: |
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Looks like a inductive pickup on a spark plug wire for a RPM gauge?
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stevensj13 Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2014 1:40 pm Post subject: |
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Mr.Duncan wrote: |
Looks like a inductive pickup on a spark plug wire for a RPM gauge?
WEIRD |
Yeah I dunno what its about. I figured it wasn't factory, if it isn't then its a really clean install for whatever it is. Like I said theres no tach in the car or obvious aftermarket wiring in the front trunk, I'll have to dig deeper and try to trace the wire. _________________ Current: '73 standard (yellow) '76 standard (rust/gold )
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1968 bug on CJ 5 chassis w/ super swampers
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Cusser Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2014 2:30 pm Post subject: Re: Bought 2 more, 73 and a 76 |
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stevensj13 wrote: |
I just bought myself two more bugs. They came as a package deal. |
Did you have a "buy one, get one free" coupon ? _________________ 1970 VW (owned since 1972) and 1971 VW Convertible (owned since 1976), second owner of each. The '71 now has the 1835 engine, swapped from the '70. Second owner of each. 1988 Mazda B2200 truck, 1998 Frontier, 2014 Yukon, 2004 Frontier King Cab. All manual transmission except for the Yukon. http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=335294 http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=335297 |
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stevensj13 Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2014 3:22 pm Post subject: Re: Bought 2 more, 73 and a 76 |
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Much appreciated, mystery solved. Kinda crazy that this is till on the car, I might keep it on.
Cusser wrote: |
stevensj13 wrote: |
I just bought myself two more bugs. They came as a package deal. |
Did you have a "buy one, get one free" coupon ? |
something like that
Side note, I was just outside working on the car trying to get the old exhaust header off, what a PITA. I'd like to be able to get my impact wrench on there and zip the old nuts off the studs. If I can't get the exhaust off in the car I might drop the engine, it only takes a half hour to do anyway. _________________ Current: '73 standard (yellow) '76 standard (rust/gold )
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1973 Super (x2)
1971 Super
1968 bug on CJ 5 chassis w/ super swampers
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stevensj13 Samba Member
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Posted: Sat Dec 20, 2014 10:18 am Post subject: |
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Well good news and bad news. Good news, I cleaned the cap, points, and rotor on the brown '76 and threw a battery in it. I got it to fire on starting fluid so I put some gas in the float bowl and it kinda sorta ran for a few seconds at a time but the throttle pedal is stuck so I can't really manipulate the throttle to try and keep it running. The throttle on the carb isn't stuck its just the pedal so I need to free that up or I have another non stuck pedal cluster out of a '73 in my spare parts bin. Now the bad news, I snapped an exhaust stud on the yellow '73. Who knew a rotted out exhaust would have rusty studs/nuts . One nut came off clean on the other head but its a PITA to get to the other one, and I snapped a stud on the other head and I can't get a grip on the other nut so the engine is coming out and I'm going to use some persuasion (vice grips and a blow torch) to try and get the rest apart and then try to get that snapped stud out or drill it out. Once thats done I can test fit the new exhaust and weld it up.
_________________ Current: '73 standard (yellow) '76 standard (rust/gold )
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1973 Super (x2)
1971 Super
1968 bug on CJ 5 chassis w/ super swampers
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stevensj13 Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2014 6:19 pm Post subject: |
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Updates! So since I last posted I got the car in the garage and up on stands. I ended up getting the nut off the last stud on the driver side without incident (other stud on that side snapped however) and on the passenger side I got 1 nut off with no incident, the other nut however I had to get a bit creative and cut up the old rusty header to get a socket on. A sawzall, a punch, and a hammer and 5 minutes later its out. The actual stud pulled out of the head however so I need to replace it or use a bolt. I'm gonna try to get the broken stud out of the head but if I can't then I'm just gonna throw the new header in with 3 out of the 4.
Side note, this is the oil pump cover. Any idea what these fittings are for? I thought the oil filter/cooler kits mounted on top of the case to the oil cooler ports?
The bottom of the collector and the one lower tube are rotted out so the header was junk
_________________ Current: '73 standard (yellow) '76 standard (rust/gold )
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1971 Super
1968 bug on CJ 5 chassis w/ super swampers
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Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2014 6:29 pm Post subject: |
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Auto stick trans parts off oil pump? |
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stevensj13 Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2014 6:31 pm Post subject: |
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Rob711 wrote: |
Auto stick trans parts off oil pump? |
I dunno, I suppose that'd make sense. The car is a 4 speed manual and has been since new as far as I can tell. Of course lord knows where the engine came from if its not original _________________ Current: '73 standard (yellow) '76 standard (rust/gold )
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Rob711 Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2014 6:51 pm Post subject: |
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Im new to vw but ur ashtray shows autostick shift pattern, I believe. U don't have that goofy giant brake/ clutch pedal. I don't know |
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stevensj13 Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2014 9:04 pm Post subject: |
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Rob711 wrote: |
Im new to vw but ur ashtray shows autostick shift pattern, I believe. U don't have that goofy giant brake/ clutch pedal. I don't know |
That's a very good point I didn't even notice that. That is the autostick pattern. Well damn maybe the car was converted at one point to stick shift? It's definitely a 4 speed manual now lol trust me I've driven it. If someone went thru the trouble of installing a clutch cable tube and doin the conversion instead of buying a 4 speed car factory they must have really liked the car. _________________ Current: '73 standard (yellow) '76 standard (rust/gold )
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1968 bug on CJ 5 chassis w/ super swampers
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Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2014 3:48 am Post subject: |
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Rob711 wrote: |
Im new to vw but ur ashtray shows autostick shift pattern, I believe. U don't have that goofy giant brake/ clutch pedal. I don't know |
Nice spot Rob711!!! _________________ .ssS! |
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stevensj13 Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2014 6:03 pm Post subject: |
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Yesterday I removed the fuel lines/filters and drained them and saw how disgusting the gas was so today I pulled off the carb and gave it a much needed cleaning. Lots of red dirt n nastiness in there and some of what dripped out was a pure-yellow. Not a gas yellow but like, highlighter marker yellow Oh well. I'll be running new lines and pulling/cleaning the tank. If the tank is beyond cleaning I'll use the one out of the gold car. Anyway, I have this piece of the autostick system stuck on my intake manifold and I was wondering if there was a way to get rid of it? Also, they had a hose going from the top vacuum barb directly to the vacuum barb on the intake below the carburetor plate, would this open this big solenoid thing and cause an air leak? Forgive my ignorance of autostick cars I have another stock intake I can throw in if this ones gonna cause me problems.
Heres the ports on the intake I'm talking about
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Posted: Sat Dec 27, 2014 3:42 pm Post subject: |
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More updates. Pulled out the gas tank the other day, the inside is very rusty and the gas I drained out of it was disgusting. The fuel filter let out some nice chunky nastiness also
Believe it or not, much to my suprise considering the condition of the floors and paint on the '76 (gold car) the gas tank is mint inside! So, I grabbed it and cleaned it up a little, wire-wheeled off the surface rust on the outside to make sure there were no holes and there aren't. I'm gonna slam that in and run it, its already baffled and has a feed and return incase I ever decide to swap a watercooled fuel injection engine in the car
While I had the tank out I noticed how gross the master cylinder looked and despite the fact that it worked, I decided to be safe rather than sorry and buy a new one. I learned about the importance of brakes when my low rider super beetle's brakes went out at 60 mph. I about shat myself
Heres the old one
Heres the mess, and yes I am replacing the rubber resivour hose with proper german stuff I'm gonna order when I order my header install gasket kit
New one in mostly. Ignore the piece of black fuel line hose, I was considering putting it together with fuel line hose temporarily just to move the car around but I think I'll wait.
So there we go, some progress. Also, the car will be getting a turbo installed. I was planning on waiting to do this for a couple months but while I have the car apart (brakes being done, gas tank out, carb off, exhaust off, ect) I figured nows the time. Just a simple draw-thru with a Saab T25 I'm hoping to pick up in the next couple days. I have a Mallory Hyfire 6 box to control boost ignition retard and I have a carter 2 barrel I'll be trying in a draw thru setup. If it doesn't work out I'll get the usual Holley 390 but I figured I have it kicking around so I'll give it a shot. _________________ Current: '73 standard (yellow) '76 standard (rust/gold )
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1973 Super (x2)
1971 Super
1968 bug on CJ 5 chassis w/ super swampers
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