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moab762 Samba Member
Joined: October 09, 2014 Posts: 518 Location: El Segundo, CA
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Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2014 9:08 pm Post subject: '67's had rear drain tubes on the sunroof. Right? |
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Guy tried to tell me today that '67's didn't have rear drain tubes on the sunroof. I know he's mistaken. But just playing devils advocate here. He did a good job of tightening up and adjusting my existing sunroof and cables. But it sounds like I need new cables too. It won't quite pop up into one corner. It's about a quarter inch short. But if you push on that inside corner it will go up into place. Guess I gotta drop another $150 for new cables plus labor on this beast. Damn.
Should I be able to feel the drain tubes thru the headliner? I know if I pop off the rear panel I should see the tube. Right? Like in the picture below? I'm replacing the headliner. So I may just cut some slits in to inspect the rear drain tubes. One of the front ones was clogged. So I'm sure the back ones probably need maintenance.
It also makes a clicking noise when you open and close it. I had a new gear. But he said it didn't need it. But he also couldn't tell me what the click was from.
Anyone know of any serious pros with these things in the LA area? I know Blodgetts works on them. But they are two hours east of me. I really don't want to drive all the way out there just for that. And ISPWest will probably want a grand just to look at it.
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VOLKSWAGNUT Fastest VW Belt Changer
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Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2014 6:46 am Post subject: |
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All steel sunroof Beetles have 4 drains..
The rear...
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moab762 Samba Member
Joined: October 09, 2014 Posts: 518 Location: El Segundo, CA
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Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2014 10:07 am Post subject: |
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In case I don't get my answer in that other thread I just brought back from the dead:
What is the best material to replace drain tubes with? And where do you get it?
Also doesn't the drain tube (assuming your headliner is off and you can get to them) go over the metal tube coming out of the sunroof? Would a clamp be in order here?
I'm redoing the interior. So I think I'm just going to take the headliner off and replace all the tubes with new material.
Before I replaced the seals. I had water dripping down the headliner above the B pillar area and further back. Which leads me to believe that either the drain tube has come loose on the rear passenger side or worse there's a hole rotted in the sunroof carriage. Am I thinking correctly here? |
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Bobnotch Samba Member
Joined: July 06, 2003 Posts: 22410 Location: Kimball, Mi
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Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2014 10:22 am Post subject: |
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moab762 wrote: |
In case I don't get my answer in that other thread I just brought back from the dead:
What is the best material to replace drain tubes with? And where do you get it?
Also doesn't the drain tube (assuming your headliner is off and you can get to them) go over the metal tube coming out of the sunroof? Would a clamp be in order here?
I'm redoing the interior. So I think I'm just going to take the headliner off and replace all the tubes with new material.
Before I replaced the seals. I had water dripping down the headliner above the B pillar area and further back. Which leads me to believe that either the drain tube has come loose on the rear passenger side or worse there's a hole rotted in the sunroof carriage. Am I thinking correctly here? |
I used clear vinyl hose from the Tractor Supply Company when I did the hoses on my 65 Sunroof Notch. The hose I used was pretty close to the same size ID that VW used, so I didn't need a clamp for it. However, my sunroof tray did have some rust in it, and I had to rebuild it before I installed the headliner. So, IF you have a leak, I'd pull the headliner out, and inspect the tray for rust before going any further.
Keep in mind that the seals you installed are dust and wind seals, not water seals. This means they are NOT for keeping water out, only dust and wind. The very rear rubber seal (attaches to the hatch) only directs water to the sides, not sealing anything. The drain hoses are for water removal.
I hope this helps. _________________ Bob 65 Notch S with Sunroof
71 Notch ...aka Krunchy; build pics here;
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=249390 -been busy working
64 T-34 Ghia...aka Wolfie, under construction... http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=412120
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moab762 Samba Member
Joined: October 09, 2014 Posts: 518 Location: El Segundo, CA
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Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2014 10:31 am Post subject: |
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Bobnotch wrote: |
moab762 wrote: |
In case I don't get my answer in that other thread I just brought back from the dead:
What is the best material to replace drain tubes with? And where do you get it?
Also doesn't the drain tube (assuming your headliner is off and you can get to them) go over the metal tube coming out of the sunroof? Would a clamp be in order here?
I'm redoing the interior. So I think I'm just going to take the headliner off and replace all the tubes with new material.
Before I replaced the seals. I had water dripping down the headliner above the B pillar area and further back. Which leads me to believe that either the drain tube has come loose on the rear passenger side or worse there's a hole rotted in the sunroof carriage. Am I thinking correctly here? |
I used clear vinyl hose from the Tractor Supply Company when I did the hoses on my 65 Sunroof Notch. The hose I used was pretty close to the same size ID that VW used, so I didn't need a clamp for it. However, my sunroof tray did have some rust in it, and I had to rebuild it before I installed the headliner. So, IF you have a leak, I'd pull the headliner out, and inspect the tray for rust before going any further.
Keep in mind that the seals you installed are dust and wind seals, not water seals. This means they are NOT for keeping water out, only dust and wind. The very rear rubber seal (attaches to the hatch) only directs water to the sides, not sealing anything. The drain hoses are for water removal.
I hope this helps. |
Makes alot more sense to me now. The headliner is definitely coming off sooner than later. Thanks. Sincerely appreciate it. |
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