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turtlebaja Samba Member
Joined: September 15, 2014 Posts: 43 Location: United States
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Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2014 4:06 am Post subject: skid plates for class 11 look alike? |
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I can't seem to find any info on what pre-made skid plates will fit a stock or class 11 standard beetle (1973 to be exact) front and rear and connects to the bumpers.
Are there any or is this something I'll have to custom make?
Thanks! |
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tripicana Samba Member
Joined: February 13, 2003 Posts: 1164 Location: colorado springs
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Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2014 6:46 am Post subject: |
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Front you'll probably have to fab yourself. Rear, most vendors sell premade ones, check chirco.com _________________ foam cowboy hats aren't good helmets. |
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turtlebaja Samba Member
Joined: September 15, 2014 Posts: 43 Location: United States
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Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2014 7:26 am Post subject: |
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I thought those were made for chopped and caged engine rear Baja only? |
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AZ-BUG Samba Member
Joined: January 27, 2008 Posts: 477 Location: AZ
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Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2014 1:07 pm Post subject: |
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This one bolts onto a stock bug (front tranny mount, rear engine case).
http://www.mooreparts.com/5475-AC800000-W*/?gclid=CJnapvrszcICFaHm7AodZmkA_A (you will need to copy/paste the entire link, the questionmark seems to mess up the link)
I used one of those with custom tubes tied into the stock bumper brackets, and had a custom skid plate built for the front. I have not seen a "bolt on" skidplate for the front, however I have seen people make their own and bolt a skidplate to the front of the bumper, and to the floor pan underneath the beam. Neither of the bolt on options are very sturdy, but certainly do offer some protection
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Justbuggin175 Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2014 7:18 pm Post subject: |
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pretty cool good work |
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turtlebaja Samba Member
Joined: September 15, 2014 Posts: 43 Location: United States
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Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2014 6:30 am Post subject: |
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AZ-BUG wrote: |
This one bolts onto a stock bug (front tranny mount, rear engine case). |
I thought that defeated the purpose of a skid plate though? |
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AZ-BUG Samba Member
Joined: January 27, 2008 Posts: 477 Location: AZ
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Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2014 5:03 pm Post subject: |
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turtlebaja wrote: |
AZ-BUG wrote: |
This one bolts onto a stock bug (front tranny mount, rear engine case). |
I thought that defeated the purpose of a skid plate though? |
I am not suggesting it's a robust solution, just wanted to provide you with info regarding what is out there that is "bolt-on"... I agree it's a pretty weak set-up, that's why I showed you how I achieved what you are looking to do. I don't think the "pre-made" skidplates you are looking for exist, so you'll have to design your own.
I've seen this done alot for the front (would be bolt on), but does not seem to provide much protection either. I think you are best off spending the money to have something fabricated for you.
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dustymojave Samba Member
Joined: January 07, 2007 Posts: 5802 Location: Lake LA, Mojave Desert, SoCal
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Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2014 11:22 pm Post subject: |
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Look for my post in that thread. The pre-made skidplate should NEVER be mounted to the engine case. However they are great. I've owned one since the early 70s and it has worked great the whole time. I've had to straighten it many times, it keeps on going. It should be mounted to the engine CAGE instead of the case. In that post mentioned above, I described how to mount it. Some pics would probably help too.
Here's one showing the "hammer it straight" deal.
Here's the plate
This pic shows the rear mounts turned outboard to mount to the bumper cage, instead of inward to mount to the engine case.
The right side bracket I didn't need to drill holes even. The left bracket required drilling one hole. _________________ Richard
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Tech Inspection 1963 - 2012 SCCA/SCORE/HDRA/MORE/MDR +
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turtlebaja Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2014 9:49 am Post subject: |
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Looks like I'm going to have to custom make a cage first I guess |
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mr_bill Samba Member
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Posted: Sat Dec 20, 2014 3:34 pm Post subject: |
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AZ-BUG wrote: |
turtlebaja wrote: |
AZ-BUG wrote: |
This one bolts onto a stock bug (front tranny mount, rear engine case). |
I thought that defeated the purpose of a skid plate though? |
I am not suggesting it's a robust solution, just wanted to provide you with info regarding what is out there that is "bolt-on"... I agree it's a pretty weak set-up, that's why I showed you how I achieved what you are looking to do. I don't think the "pre-made" skidplates you are looking for exist, so you'll have to design your own.
I've seen this done alot for the front (would be bolt on), but does not seem to provide much protection either. I think you are best off spending the money to have something fabricated for you.
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just FYI...Dave Hendrickson's 1158 is pretty much one of the BEST sorted-out 11 cars around _________________ see ya' on the trail........
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'60's era "vintage" Tunnell-Buggy
"...no one here....get's out ALIVE...."
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AZ-BUG Samba Member
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Posted: Sat Dec 20, 2014 7:04 pm Post subject: |
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mr_bill wrote: |
AZ-BUG wrote: |
turtlebaja wrote: |
AZ-BUG wrote: |
This one bolts onto a stock bug (front tranny mount, rear engine case). |
I thought that defeated the purpose of a skid plate though? |
I am not suggesting it's a robust solution, just wanted to provide you with info regarding what is out there that is "bolt-on"... I agree it's a pretty weak set-up, that's why I showed you how I achieved what you are looking to do. I don't think the "pre-made" skidplates you are looking for exist, so you'll have to design your own.
I've seen this done alot for the front (would be bolt on), but does not seem to provide much protection either. I think you are best off spending the money to have something fabricated for you.
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just FYI...Dave Hendrickson's 1158 is pretty much one of the BEST sorted-out 11 cars around |
I hear you Bill, I am well aware of Dave's track record and reputation... He would kick my ass to China and back any day of the week! That being said, I want to keep the apron and hood on my car looking nice... Even if it probably weighs twice what Dave's does LOL |
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Nectar1 Samba Member
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Posted: Sat Dec 27, 2014 11:39 pm Post subject: |
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Something like this?
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dustymojave Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Dec 28, 2014 12:39 am Post subject: |
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So what is the source for those? They look to be well made. _________________ Richard
Offroading VW based cars since 1965
Tech Inspection 1963 - 2012 SCCA/SCORE/HDRA/MORE/MDR +
Retired from building Bajas, Fiberglass Buggies and Rails in the Mojave Desert. Also Sprints & Midgets, Dry Lakes, Road Race cars. All types New and Vintage
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DirtDgr Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Dec 28, 2014 8:47 pm Post subject: |
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Here is mine.
Up here in the VORRA series this is our front style. Wrapped up to top of the bumper. Thick 1/4" plate aluminum gets hammered!
_________________ Meek Racing would like to thank Two Larry's Racing, Baja Designs, Rugged Radios, Racer Decal, Optima Batteries, and Lakeport Tire for continued support throughout our racing adventures! You make it possible!
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Nectar1 Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Dec 28, 2014 10:03 pm Post subject: |
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I actually make those. This batch was CNC punched from 11ga CRS and then formed and welded.
If you play inside of the Class 11 arena, they fit real well. If you wanna remove the front bumper and/or upfit a bus trans, then some fab work is definitely required to make them fit.
www.nectarlabs.co
work in progress
Thanks for the feedback. |
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AZ-BUG Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Dec 28, 2014 10:24 pm Post subject: |
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Dirtdgr, I love your car, and that rear skid plate is really cool!
Nectar1, those skid plates look great, I wish I would have known about them... Really nice option. |
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DirtDgr Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2014 9:36 pm Post subject: |
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Nectar1 wrote: |
Something like this?
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I PM'd you a few questions if you don't mind.
I would love to see these installed on a car?!
I like what you have to offer in your store too. _________________ Meek Racing would like to thank Two Larry's Racing, Baja Designs, Rugged Radios, Racer Decal, Optima Batteries, and Lakeport Tire for continued support throughout our racing adventures! You make it possible!
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DirtDgr Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2014 9:40 pm Post subject: |
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AZ-BUG wrote: |
Dirtdgr, I love your car, and that rear skid plate is really cool!
Nectar1, those skid plates look great, I wish I would have known about them... Really nice option. |
They work great too, thanks.
Your yellow 11 is very nice! _________________ Meek Racing would like to thank Two Larry's Racing, Baja Designs, Rugged Radios, Racer Decal, Optima Batteries, and Lakeport Tire for continued support throughout our racing adventures! You make it possible!
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71StandardReduction Samba Member
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