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 Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2005 10:16 pm Post subject: Beetle trans into type 3? |
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Will an early beetle transmission fit into a type 3? Seems like it would but would narrow the rear suspension? I need a type 3 tranny, and a guy I know has very kindly offered me the one out of his notch if I can get a tranny to put back in it so that it will still roll. I have a beetle tranny, and want to know if I can just straight swap them out.
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Yeah, it'll fit, but you'll need to swap the hockey stick if you want to actually use it. Also the splines on the end of the axles are about 9/16ths of and inch shorter, which means the t-3 drums would have to be machined. I believe you could just swap the trans itself, and reuse your old axles, but Russ would have to verify this, as I'm not a swingaxle guy. 
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Russ Wolfe
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The trans is the same except for the "hockey stick". The axles are slightly different. If this was a permanent swap, you could swap the axles over onto the other trans.
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con123172
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| Can the "hockey stick" be replaced with the trans still in the car? |
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Russ Wolfe
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| Can the "hockey stick" be replaced with the trans still in the car? |
Yes, it can if you know how the front shifter housing goes together. I don't recommend doing it unless you have had a transmission out of a T-3 before, and know how things go together.
You will need a gasket for the front housing. The gasket is actuall a shim also.
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Notched
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What year Type 3? I assume older, but I'm not sure why...
If it's a swing, you could find an early short axle and get a narrower rear track. I think you'd have to run bug brakes though.
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| If it's a swing, you could find an early short axle and get a narrower rear track. I think you'd have to run bug brakes though. |
That's why I mentioned the T-3 drum's snout needing 9/16ths machined off it. The t-1 axle splines are shorter than the t-3.
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