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kiwighia68
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 Posted: Sat Jan 31, 2015 1:40 pm Post subject: Door Trim Questions: Oh, no! Not again! |
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My new door skins have to be prepared to receive the new outside chrome trim strips. The subject has been raised in a umber of threads, but not quite resolved, as far as I can see. I want to fit the trim exactly where the factory had placed them.
Note: I have new door-skins, so there are no filled in holes to guide me. Note also that I've had to replace the lowed front and rear guard bits so that there's no guidance from that side either.
My plan of action is as follows:
1. I've measured on my mate Dean's '69 Ghia the distance between the lower edge of the door and the lower edge of his trim - both upper and lower pieces. We didn't want to pry the trim off to get at the holes underneath because that might damage the trim or clips and destroy the waterproofing.
2. The dimensions I found are as follows: (a) lower edge of door to lower edge of first trim piece - 10.3cm (b) lower edge of door to lower edge of upper door trim - 12.8cm. (In inches, 4 and 1/8 and 4 and 5/8 respectively)
3. I deduce that the hole centres must therefore be half the width of the trim higher, the trim being 1cm wide. So 10.8 and 13.8 cm respectively from the lower edge of the door.
4. Measuring along the length of the trim and starting from the front edge of the door, the holes appear to be spaced at the following intervals: 2.5cm - 17.5 - 34 - 49 - 65 - 78 - 88 - and 98cm. (In inches, 1 - 7.5 - 13.5 - 19.25 - 25.5 - 30.5 - 34.5 and 38.5 inches respectively)
What bugs me is this: The intervals are uneven. I would have expected equal distances between the holes with the front and rear ones appropriately placed near the ends. So what have I missed here?
5. I intend to use a chalk line to mark the lines on the door so that they (the lines) will extend to the front and rear guards as well. The trim pieces there are short and I'll do 2 holes each, near the ends of the trim.
6. I intend to waterproof the holes by pinching "dum-dum putty" (3M Strip Caulk?) over the clips on the inside.
Any advice and comments on my plan will be appreciated. Also confirmation - or correction of my measurements.
One more thing: Some members have commented that instead of drilling holes the trim could be fixed with 3M tape, thus avoiding waterproofing and rust issues. Has anyone actually done that with good results?
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ZENVWDRIVER
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| Posted: Sat Jan 31, 2015 6:30 pm Post subject: |
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I have eliminated these trim strips, recently. I did notice, inside the door, what is covered in your #6...good idea.
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69 GVert
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| Posted: Sat Jan 31, 2015 8:24 pm Post subject: |
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I measured my unpainted door, the holes are consistently 109mm and 134mm from the bottom edge, aside from the front two which are on the curved area and measure 100mm and 126mm from that curve. (Use a chalk line or long straight edge to keep them in line with the rest.)
Starting at the front the top hole is 30mm and the bottom is 35mm from the slanted edge. (Unlike the rest of the pairs, these two are not the same distance from the slanted front edge of the door.)
Second set is 185mm, then 340mm, 494mm, 655mm, 805mm and finally 962mm. Both the front and rear pairs of holes have notches in the door skin to make the thickness consistent with the rest of the holes. |
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kiwighia68
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| Posted: Sat Jan 31, 2015 9:44 pm Post subject: |
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| 69 GVert wrote: |
I measured my unpainted door, the holes are consistently 109mm and 134mm from the bottom edge, aside from the front two which are on the curved area and measure 100mm and 126mm from that curve. (Use a chalk line or long straight edge to keep them in line with the rest.)
Starting at the front the top hole is 30mm and the bottom is 35mm from the slanted edge. (Unlike the rest of the pairs, these two are not the same distance from the slanted front edge of the door.)
Second set is 185mm, then 340mm, 494mm, 655mm, 805mm and finally 962mm. Both the front and rear pairs of holes have notches in the door skin to make the thickness consistent with the rest of the holes. |
Thank you very much for taking the time and making the effort to give me these measurements. I count 7 sets of holes (2 per set, with one hole for the top and one for the lower strip).
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kiwighia68
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I think your idea of snapping a chalk line is perfect.
You may be over engineering as far as leaking thru the holes. I have never noticed any rust lines coming the trim holes. I think doors rusted because cars were parked outside in the elements for years. Good bet you will take a little better care of this one. |
Hi Darrel, I've spoken to Phillip - I'm at the panelbeaters today - and he says instead of dum-dum putty he'll use urethane to seal the holes form the inside. So far so good. I'll post some photos later today to show progress with the marking of the holes - if we get there today.
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