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PostPosted: Sat Feb 14, 2015 11:19 am    Post subject: need replacement stale air heater control tube Reply with quote

I recently acquired a 61baja, and it has the heater control cable tubes, but somebody cut off the tube that the heater control knob assembly slides into. I need either a replacement section of this part of the tunnel, or I need to fabricate and thread a tube to replace the housing where it exits the tunnel. Does anybody know what thread pitch the tube is threaded for? Any help would be appreciated. I would also be interested in a piece cut from another tunnel to just weld back in.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 14, 2015 11:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

was it cut flush with the frame? I could go cut one out of a junkyard that is about a mile from my place, but it would have to wait till monday. No clue what the guy will want for it, but if someone closer doesnt have one, I can send it to ya for price +shipping


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 14, 2015 12:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's cut flush at the tunnel, I'll try and get some pics up this afternoon.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 14, 2015 12:45 pm    Post subject: Re: need replacement stale air heater control tube Reply with quote

Lingwendil wrote:
. . . anybody know what thread pitch the tube is threaded for?

I can tell you that you will not find a threading die for that size, so unless you can cut threads with your lathe, you might as well forget trying to fabricate it!

Bret . . . you're awesome if you can get that section of the tunnel for Lingwendil!!!! Cool
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 14, 2015 2:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is a procedure for this in the Bentley. I'll try to get a scan or a picture. It was apparently not uncommon to bang the threads up, and the procedure was replacement.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 14, 2015 2:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I basically have been living there from 2-5 Thursdays and Fridays. It's not a vw exclusive yard, but I know he has one on a rotted car even I wouldn't touch. Just let me know for certain. A pic would be nice so I know how much to cut.

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 14, 2015 2:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cool! A soon as I'm off work I will pull up the carpet and snap a couple pictures. Company truck at the moment, otherwise I would shoot a few off now.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 14, 2015 3:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

panicman wrote:
It was apparently not uncommon to bang the threads up, and the procedure was replacement.


FWIW . . . mine was and I was unable to screw the control unit in, so I bought a metric thread file and it worked absolutely GREAT!!! http://www.amazon.com/Nicholson-Thread-Restoring-S...hread+file

You might need on of those files Lingwendil . . . if your replacement piece is not perfect. The threads are super fine and, as Panicman points out, easily damaged. Get the control unit to test with as you do the repair. Wink
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 14, 2015 3:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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panicman wrote:
It was apparently not uncommon to bang the threads up, and the procedure was replacement.


FWIW . . . mine was and I was unable to screw the control unit in, so I bought a metric thread file and it worked absolutely GREAT!!! http://www.amazon.com/Nicholson-Thread-Restoring-S...hread+file

You might need on of those files Lingwendil . . . if your replacement piece is not perfect. The threads are super fine and, as Panicman points out, easily damaged. Get the control unit to test with as you do the repair. Wink


Already got a control unit coming in with my parts order from CIP1. Along with a heater cable set and grommets.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 14, 2015 10:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok, I dug out the Bentley procedure. Unfortunately, it is for instances where the conduit is still present, but the threads are damaged. If yours is cut flush, then first of all, goddam the bastard who did it. Then, move on.

You'll have to find a donor peice with clean threads and do some careful cutting and grafting.

Godspeed, and good luck. If you want me to scan the page from Bentley, I'll do it. Let me know.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 15, 2015 11:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Got off late last night, but put some pics into my gallery. If you need a better shot let me know.

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_search.php?search_author=Lingwendil
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 16, 2015 7:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jeeez they fucked that one up proper... I will cut one some time this week, might give you a little extra metal to work with. I can't promise today, because I have been up something like 36 hours studying. Probs gonna crash after my last class gets out at 240

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 16, 2015 7:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bret2094 wrote:
Jeeez they fucked that one up proper... I will cut one some time this week, might give you a little extra metal to work with. I can't promise today, because I have been up something like 36 hours studying. Probs gonna crash after my last class gets out at 240

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No worries dude, anything you do is a great help.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 16, 2015 11:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lingwendil wrote:
Got off late last night, but put some pics into my gallery. If you need a better shot let me know.

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_search.php?search_author=Lingwendil

WOW! Not quite what I envisioned!
Just my opinion . . . some people should NOT work on cars!

Lingwendil wrote:
Already got a control unit coming in with my parts order from CIP1.


Cool . . . I did not know they are available new!
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 16, 2015 11:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You should run the new cables through the conduits to be sure they are free and open before you weld in the donor piece.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 16, 2015 11:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

57BLITZ wrote:
You should run the new cables through the conduits to be sure they are free and open before you weld in the donor piece.


That's the plan. Got the cables on order, should be here this week. Either way I'm putting the piece back in, even if I have to do some work to the tubes themselves. Wd40 runs through them pretty quick, so I have high hopes.
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