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jroymcd Samba Member
Joined: April 18, 2005 Posts: 1053 Location: Bay Area
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Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 7:36 pm Post subject: |
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thanks guys. my wheels are one color and wanted to do the centers white. trying to keep the car as OG as possible. _________________ www.cultwagen.com |
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53 0val Samba Professor
Joined: July 03, 2003 Posts: 11396 Location: Irvine, CA
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Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 7:45 pm Post subject: |
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Is your car a deluxe or a standard? _________________ "What a fool believes he sees, no wise man has the power to reason away." Dobee, Dobee, Do |
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jroymcd Samba Member
Joined: April 18, 2005 Posts: 1053 Location: Bay Area
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Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 7:46 pm Post subject: |
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deluxe _________________ www.cultwagen.com |
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53 0val Samba Professor
Joined: July 03, 2003 Posts: 11396 Location: Irvine, CA
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Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 8:34 pm Post subject: |
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Paint those bad boys........ _________________ "What a fool believes he sees, no wise man has the power to reason away." Dobee, Dobee, Do |
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HerrrKafer Samba Member
Joined: June 02, 2004 Posts: 1465 Location: East Fishkill, NY
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Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 2:44 am Post subject: |
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Rome wrote: |
To start to answer your question, I think that standard Beetles (non-Deluxe) from that era had wheels which were fully painted in the car color. Color choices tended to be on the "drab" side, like grey and dark blue; the "Garwood" book "Car of the Century" would show the details.
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Could someone that has CoC check exactly what it says? According to the newish Richardson book, all oval standards had L87 or L81 hubs and body color-matched rims with the exception of 54-up Jupiter grey cars that had full painted Jupiter grey wheels. So far I've found this book to be pretty reliable. _________________ Evan H.
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janerick3 Samba Member
Joined: June 04, 2006 Posts: 1879 Location: Colorado
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Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 12:15 am Post subject: |
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Garwood focuses on US-market VWs and only lists trim details on standard model colors through early 1953; which is about the time VW stopped exporting standard models to the US. For L225 Jupiter Gray standard Zwitters, Garwood lists the wheel rim colors as L225 (outside rim) and L87 Pearl White (inner rim).
However, Garwood has several errors with wheel rim colors, especially with Ovals. For example, L351 Coral Red Ovals had Chestnut Brown outer rims, not Coral Red and at least one 1954 sedan color (probably L275 Light Beige) was available with Sealing Wax Red inner rims. _________________ Thanks,
Jan K. |
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HerrrKafer Samba Member
Joined: June 02, 2004 Posts: 1465 Location: East Fishkill, NY
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Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 1:40 am Post subject: |
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Jupiter Grey Zwitters? According to the color charts on this site, and Richardson, there's no such thing.
The lack of a complete, consistent set of information on this topic is frustrating. I thought Coral cars had L74 Rusty Brown outer rims. And I wouldn't doubt at least a percentage of L275 '54's had SWR inners (though Richardson also doesn't show it), as that had been the standard on white/beige cars since the beginning of two-tone rims. _________________ Evan H.
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janerick3 Samba Member
Joined: June 04, 2006 Posts: 1879 Location: Colorado
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Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 10:17 pm Post subject: |
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HerrrKafer wrote: |
Jupiter Grey Zwitters? According to the color charts on this site, and Richardson, there's no such thing.
The lack of a complete, consistent set of information on this topic is frustrating. I thought Coral cars had L74 Rusty Brown outer rims. And I wouldn't doubt at least a percentage of L275 '54's had SWR inners (though Richardson also doesn't show it), as that had been the standard on white/beige cars since the beginning of two-tone rims. |
The US-market, standard Zwitter that once belonged to the late Steve Wood now resides in CO and still wears 95+ percent of its og gray paint. Whether it's L225 or another shade, such as L21 Pearl Gray, I couldn't tell you.
I think you're right on the L74 Rusty Brown rims on Coral cars (had a brain fart). The SWR rim came off a Feb '54 car (og color not known) and still has the og tube-type Firestone Phoenix tire. _________________ Thanks,
Jan K. |
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Nessy Samba Member
Joined: September 28, 2004 Posts: 424 Location: Wales,UK
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Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 12:16 am Post subject: |
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janerick3 wrote: |
However, Garwood has several errors with wheel rim colors, especially with Ovals. For example, L351 Coral Red Ovals had Chestnut Brown outer rims, not Coral Red and at least one 1954 sedan color (probably L275 Light Beige) was available with Sealing Wax Red inner rims. |
My Sahara Beige September '53 (L272) has Sealing Wax Red hubs with body-colour rims and with the VW logo on the hub cap in red.
All the rims are dated 3/53 and show no signs of ever having been re-painted so I'm convinced that is the factory spec.
It is a European model though (British-market rhd) so it might differ from those cars that were available over the pond.......... _________________ 1972 1302LS Convertible RHD |
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Major Woody Samba Enigma
Joined: December 04, 2002 Posts: 9010 Location: Portland, OR
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Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2009 2:00 pm Post subject: |
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Does anyone have a link to L74 glasurit formula and/or chip? |
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IN2VWS Samba Member
Joined: January 29, 2006 Posts: 2521 Location: Australia
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Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2009 3:26 pm Post subject: |
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No formula.....just a chip.
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Major Woody Samba Enigma
Joined: December 04, 2002 Posts: 9010 Location: Portland, OR
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Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2009 3:30 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks. Hopefully someone will have a formula in an old book. I did a pretty good search but didn't find anything. |
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IN2VWS Samba Member
Joined: January 29, 2006 Posts: 2521 Location: Australia
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Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2009 3:33 pm Post subject: |
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creative native Samba Member
Joined: October 20, 2007 Posts: 1227 Location: WNC
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Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2009 4:04 pm Post subject: |
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My 1955 is L275 Light Beige and my outer wheels are L275, with the inner hubs being L221 Copper Red. |
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mrsherbie Samba Member
Joined: November 08, 2004 Posts: 338 Location: East Sussex UK
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Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2009 9:17 am Post subject: |
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creative native wrote: |
My 1955 is L275 Light Beige and my outer wheels are L275, with the inner hubs being L221 Copper Red. |
Mine too!
(yes it might look like coral but its not!) _________________ Anna.
quote 50karmann " it'll wreck the patina you haven't worked so hard to create" |
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simak Samba Member
Joined: August 06, 2006 Posts: 14
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Is this colour combination valid also for 54 deluxe sunroof euro model? Body paint is light beige L275, so rims would be then L275/L221, right? There are also cars with single color (L275) rims, like this one:
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/320398.jpg
but that is standard model, isn't it. |
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Kjell Roar Samba Member
Joined: December 08, 2008 Posts: 1326 Location: Norway
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simak wrote: |
Is this colour combination valid also for 54 deluxe sunroof euro model? Body paint is light beige L275, so rims would be then L275/L221, right? There are also cars with single color (L275) rims, like this one:
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/320398.jpg
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Think 54 and 55 has the same, so yes.
The car in the picture is a Deluxe with repainted rims in body color.
_________________ I got a historic car, every scratch got a history...
My car, Aug. 4th, 1955 / an early 56: http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=610438 |
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