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PostPosted: Wed Feb 25, 2015 2:03 pm    Post subject: Placing jackstands Reply with quote

When removing the engine, where would be the best place to put the jack and the jack stands in the rear? I did a search but they all seem to differ.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 25, 2015 2:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I placed the jacks on the rear arms on mine.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 25, 2015 2:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

For an engine pull you want to get the back end as high as you can. You will be happy you did this Very Happy
The round housing for the torsion arms are a solid place for jack stands.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 25, 2015 2:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I put the jack stands under the torsion tube so that they aren't in the way when you're trying to get the motor out.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 25, 2015 2:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i've never understood why people want to get the car up so high to get the engine out.

i've always dropped the engine to the floor then raised the car/bus with a large trolley jack to slide the engine out and then let the vehicle back down on it's wheels again.

but that's just me, so do whatever ya like guys. Idea
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 26, 2015 4:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Same here.
I take the engine out first, and let it sit on a flat mdf panel on the garage floor (I can grab the panel and use it as a skid with the engine on it).
Then I jack up the car (I put a wooden block on the jack and then place it underneath the Y section of the trans carrier arms so I can raise the rear as much as possible with the jack... but I do make sure that no floorpan or other vulnerable parts are touched by the wood or jack, since the weight of the car will rest on the wooden block when I start jacking). That will give me enough clearance to slide the engine from under the car's rear end.
And then I support the car with long jack stands (underneath the torsion tube) for more safety.
Finally I pull the mdf sheet with the engine on it from underneath the rear of the car ... job done.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 26, 2015 7:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

oorwullie wrote:
i've never understood why people want to get the car up so high to get the engine out.

i've always dropped the engine to the floor then raised the car/bus with a large trolley jack to slide the engine out and then let the vehicle back down on it's wheels again.

but that's just me, so do whatever ya like guys. Idea


Isn't the engine in the way for the trolley jack? I mean there are only a few areas where you can lift the car without bending or damaging things.

I jacked my car up really high and placed in on jack stands, made it very easy to get to the bolts to drop the motor.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 26, 2015 10:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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oorwullie wrote:
i've never understood why people want to get the car up so high to get the engine out.

i've always dropped the engine to the floor then raised the car/bus with a large trolley jack to slide the engine out and then let the vehicle back down on it's wheels again.

but that's just me, so do whatever ya like guys. Idea


Isn't the engine in the way for the trolley jack? I mean there are only a few areas where you can lift the car without bending or damaging things.

I jacked my car up really high and placed in on jack stands, made it very easy to get to the bolts to drop the motor.


i go in from the side in front of the rear wheels and lift from the middle in front of the tranny.
and i lift the car from the same place to take the bottom engine to bell housing nuts off. without securing it with axle stands................... Shocked

yes, i have proper big trolley jacks. Wink
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 26, 2015 10:58 am    Post subject: Jackstands Reply with quote

Place the jackstands under the rear torsion tubes at the 'inner side' -

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Don't jack up or support the car at the outer ends of the torsion tubes (at the spring plates), as it can screw up the rubber bushings.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 26, 2015 12:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

get an ATV/motorcycle jack, pull engine, drop jack, raise car above engine, roll out.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 26, 2015 9:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mountainkowboy wrote:
get an ATV/motorcycle jack, pull engine, drop jack, raise car above engine, roll out.


I just use one of these

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to drop the engine onto one of these...

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- with the exhaust/heater boxes resting on the carpeted sections.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 27, 2015 3:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

didget69 wrote:
mountainkowboy wrote:
get an ATV/motorcycle jack, pull engine, drop jack, raise car above engine, roll out.


I just use one of these

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to drop the engine onto one of these...

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- with the exhaust/heater boxes resting on the carpeted sections.

bnc


that's pretty much what i use as well so thanks for the fine illustrations even if they won't convince many to do it the easy way. Laughing
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 27, 2015 9:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

didget69 wrote:
mountainkowboy wrote:
get an ATV/motorcycle jack, pull engine, drop jack, raise car above engine, roll out.


I just use one of these

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to drop the engine onto one of these...

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- with the exhaust/heater boxes resting on the carpeted sections.

bnc


I have a dolly like that, thanks. I'll have to try the lowering it to the floor then raising the car trick.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 27, 2015 11:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would always just back the rear wheels up on 2 wooden blocks each approx 5 " high that I made for this purpose. This gets the right height for my trolley jack and I don't have to jack the body up and down each time I remove and replace the engine.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 27, 2015 3:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Since I have a motorcycle I already had the jack, using it, I pulled the engine from the vert, replaced the donuts on the oil cooler and put it in the Ghia in 3 hours by myself without having to lift anything by hand. But then I'm an old guy with bad shoulders and knees. Wink
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 28, 2015 4:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i can understand using the motorsickle jack if you already have one but it's a mystery why people buy one instead of a good 2 ton trolley jack and then have the car fall down while using a crappy scissor jack from wallmart or suchlike. Laughing
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 28, 2015 6:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

oorwullie wrote:
i've never understood why people want to get the car up so high to get the engine out.

i've always dropped the engine to the floor then raised the car/bus with a large trolley jack to slide the engine out and then let the vehicle back down on it's wheels again.

but that's just me, so do whatever ya like guys. Idea


I just pulled an engine a couple of weeks ago. How are you getting to the two lower studs that connect the engine to the transmission without jacking the car up first?
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 28, 2015 6:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

CiderGuy wrote:
oorwullie wrote:
i've never understood why people want to get the car up so high to get the engine out.

i've always dropped the engine to the floor then raised the car/bus with a large trolley jack to slide the engine out and then let the vehicle back down on it's wheels again.

but that's just me, so do whatever ya like guys. Idea


I just pulled an engine a couple of weeks ago. How are you getting to the two lower studs that connect the engine to the transmission without jacking the car up first?


go back and read everything that i actually wrote............ Idea

and delete your duplicate post while you're there. Wink
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 28, 2015 6:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

and ciderguy, please don't send me any more private messages unless you have something creative to say.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 28, 2015 3:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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and ciderguy, please don't send me any more private messages unless you have something creative to say.


Guilty as charged I did miss your post, I just didn't see it, but does that give you any reason to act like a horse's ass?
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