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55 SPLITY
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 Posted: Mon Jan 27, 2014 6:59 pm Post subject: Vw symbol on a heart taillight housing? |
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Are there Vw markings on heart taillight housings?
If so where was it?
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56Cabrio
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55 SPLITY
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| Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2014 7:59 am Post subject: Heart taillight |
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I'm looking for a pic of a drain hole or a Vw emblem on the heart taillight.
The one in the pic above is a snowflake and is a bit later,
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Zwitterkafer
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| Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2014 11:09 am Post subject: |
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Look again...that is a heart tail-light. Heart lens up top, out of view.
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55 SPLITY
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| Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2014 1:15 pm Post subject: |
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Did the early hearts come with a drain hole.
I have conflicting things I have read. Trying to make sure mine aren't repops.
Were the inner tabs that hold the spring on different on the repops? |
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bwaz
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| Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2014 3:14 pm Post subject: |
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| no hole on the first ones, just after they realized there'd be problems. You can find it in progressive refinements I think? Pix for us to see if they might be repros please... |
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janerick3
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| Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2014 10:10 pm Post subject: |
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The drain hole was added on 18 October 1954, meaning the heart housing pictured above did not come from a U.S. or Canadian market car.
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Keith
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| janerick3 wrote: |
| The drain hole was added on 18 October 1954, meaning the heart housing pictured above did not come from a U.S. or Canadian market |
Jan 1955 should have been the first month of the 1955 model year and was the first year for no semaphores for U.S. market cars (thus no heart tail lights for those '55's) and the first year for official U.S. market bugs. So in reality there was never a U.S. market bug that ever had heart tail lights.
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55 SPLITY
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| Posted: Wed Jan 29, 2014 9:42 am Post subject: Pics |
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Here are some picks. I have someone who wants them for a 53 vert.
Just want to make sure they are correct before I sell them.
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Rory[/url] |
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53 0val
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| Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 10:28 pm Post subject: |
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They are not correct for a '53 US or Canadian car, vert or no vert.
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bwaz
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| Posted: Fri Jan 31, 2014 2:19 pm Post subject: |
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| 53 0val wrote: |
| They are not correct for a '53 US or Canadian car, vert or no vert. |
They are NOT correct? I would think they are. |
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53 0val
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| Posted: Fri Jan 31, 2014 3:40 pm Post subject: |
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| bwaz wrote: |
| 53 0val wrote: |
| They are not correct for a '53 US or Canadian car, vert or no vert. |
They are NOT correct? I would think they are. |
They are correct......I confused the mounting hole for a drain hole...........  Sorry for the confusion.
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53 0val
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| Bob you're slippin man |
Age is a BITCH. Actually, I'm getting over the flu and probably had too much "cough medicine" that night ................. 
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The Vdub Hub
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| Posted: Sat Feb 28, 2015 4:11 pm Post subject: Month and year of release as per Progressive Refinements |
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Great contribution to this thread everyone.
I hope I can include my comment question as I was not able to find an alternate thread to post to. If there is, please reply with the link and I'll delete my post and correctly re-post the question.
From the Progressive refinements catalog, there is no mention of the word Heart tail lights that I can find. So I assume that they are called Rear Reflectors or Stop lights. So with that said, was the heart tail light introduced on March 31, 1952 or October 1, 1952?
Thanks
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ZENVWDRIVER
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| Posted: Sat Feb 28, 2015 7:11 pm Post subject: Re: Month and year of release as per Progressive Refinements |
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| markulves wrote: |
Great contribution to this thread everyone.
I hope I can include my comment question as I was not able to find an alternate thread to post to. If there is, please reply with the link and I'll delete my post and correctly re-post the question.
From the Progressive refinements catalog, there is no mention of the word Heart tail lights that I can find. So I assume that they are called Rear Reflectors or Stop lights. So with that said, was the heart tail light introduced on March 31, 1952 or October 1, 1952?
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"Heart" tail lights were introduced at ch. 1-0397023, October, 1952 (per Car of the Century)
It is my understanding is that "hearts" were changed to "eggs" for USA bound cars only in 12/54 at ch. 1-05754165...Euro cars continued to utilize "hearts". My 1/54 has hearts and is a Euro-spec car... a 12/54 car, I once had, was a US spec car and had eggs.
Dunno when the weep holes began.
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janerick3
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| Posted: Sat Feb 28, 2015 8:33 pm Post subject: Re: Month and year of release as per Progressive Refinements |
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| markulves wrote: |
Great contribution to this thread everyone.
I hope I can include my comment question as I was not able to find an alternate thread to post to. If there is, please reply with the link and I'll delete my post and correctly re-post the question.
From the Progressive refinements catalog, there is no mention of the word Heart tail lights that I can find. So I assume that they are called Rear Reflectors or Stop lights. So with that said, was the heart tail light introduced on March 31, 1952 or October 1, 1952?
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"Heart" tail lights were introduced at ch. 1-0397023, October 1952.
It is my understanding that "hearts" were changed to "eggs" for USA bound cars only in 12/54 at ch. 1-05754165...Euro cars continued to utilize "hearts". My 1/54 has hearts and is a Euro-spec car... a 12/54 car, I once had, was a US spec car and had eggs.
Dunno when the weep holes began. |
Actually, "egg" lights were introduced on 1 October 1954, at 1-0722916 and the drain holes were added on 18 October, at 1-0734000 (both per Progressive Refinements). 1-0575415 was the start of the 1954 model year on 21 December 1953.
Bernie, was that 12/54 car you had the brown one with lots of undercoating or the one with the faded red repaint (or neither)?
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ZENVWDRIVER
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| Posted: Sun Mar 01, 2015 10:09 am Post subject: Re: Month and year of release as per Progressive Refinements |
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| ZENVWDRIVER wrote: |
| markulves wrote: |
Great contribution to this thread everyone.
I hope I can include my comment question as I was not able to find an alternate thread to post to. If there is, please reply with the link and I'll delete my post and correctly re-post the question.
From the Progressive refinements catalog, there is no mention of the word Heart tail lights that I can find. So I assume that they are called Rear Reflectors or Stop lights. So with that said, was the heart tail light introduced on March 31, 1952 or October 1, 1952?
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"Heart" tail lights were introduced at ch. 1-0397023, October 1952.
It is my understanding that "hearts" were changed to "eggs" for USA bound cars only in 12/54 at ch. 1-05754165...Euro cars continued to utilize "hearts". My 1/54 has hearts and is a Euro-spec car... a 12/54 car, I once had, was a US spec car and had eggs.
Dunno when the weep holes began. |
Actually, "egg" lights were introduced on 1 October 1954, at 1-0722916 and the drain holes were added on 18 October, at 1-0734000 (both per Progressive Refinements). 1-0575415 was the start of the 1954 model year on 21 December 1953.
Bernie, was that 12/54 car you had the brown one with lots of undercoating or the one with the faded red repaint (or neither)? |
...neither, was black.
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5/50, pastel green 11G - SOLD
8/50, gray 11A Beetle
6/52, pastel green 11C - SOLD
11/4/52, black Zwitter - SOLD to my little bro.
1954 Porsche, pre A, with VW 36 horse- SOLD
1/54, black 11C Beetle - TRADED
2/55 Iceland green Beetle, on a 1965 pan
3/55 113 Beetle, stratos silver
1955 Messerschmitt KR175 - SOLD, sadly
1960 single cab
1962 SO33, with SO 42 interior
9/63 Pacific blue, Ghia
'87 Toyota MR2
'02 WestFORDia E-150, GAVE TO OUR SON
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