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motorhead364 Samba Member
Joined: November 04, 2008 Posts: 715 Location: Amarillo Texas
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Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2015 9:05 pm Post subject: |
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Ok I may be confused as to where you're at in putting everything back. The pushrods will just slide in through the tubes and be loose. Then you will put the rocker arms on. One side will be on the push rod and one will ride on the valve. Once you adjust the valve lash the push rods will tighten up but still wiggle and spin.
Now if you're talking pushrod "tubes" I'm not as well versed on those. Are they adjustable, or have springs? Did you put the gaskets in the seats where they sit? _________________ 63 ghia coupe |
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SchnuppiePup Samba Member
Joined: November 07, 2014 Posts: 67 Location: San Jose, California
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Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2015 2:53 am Post subject: |
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The pushrod tubes are those flexy things that go over the pushrods. They’re made so that they’re approx. ˝ cm longer than needed, and then they compress as the engine head is installed and torqued down. I think a slight wiggle after installation may be OK, although I haven’t performed any such tests on mine in my ’64 Ghia, because any wiggling by me will reduce their sealing ability and lead to oil leakage.
UNLIKELY: If yours are REALLY loose, although I’m not sure exactly what that means, then you could either (1) back out (or remove) the engine head and stretch out the tubes a bit or (2) remove the head, install nice new tubes, and proceed. Either way, you will likely experience at least a little oil leakage eventually: ACVWs like to mark their territory.
Again, these things were designed to flex a significant amount before installation and may flex a tiny amount afterward. I suspect that you’re in good shape and can just proceed. Hopefully, another Sambanista with more experience than me will add their 2˘. _________________ Better a life-long learner than a life-long know-it-all.
1964 Ghia coupe
1968 Honda CT 90
1980 Honda CT 110 |
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CnfsdWhtGuy Samba Member
Joined: June 17, 2014 Posts: 54 Location: Washington
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Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2015 7:16 am Post subject: |
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I am at the point where i am putting the head back on. is it normal to stretch your push rod tubes? |
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NWGhiaGuy Samba Member
Joined: March 16, 2005 Posts: 700 Location: Bellingham, WA
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Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2015 7:35 am Post subject: |
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CnfsdWhtGuy wrote: |
I am at the point where i am putting the head back on. is it normal to stretch your push rod tubes? |
Yes, but you have to stretch them (gently) BEFORE you put the head on. If these are loose, you will have a horrible oil leak. |
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CiderGuy Samba Member
Joined: December 23, 2013 Posts: 1351 Location: Bucks County, Pa
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Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2015 8:07 am Post subject: |
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NWGhiaGuy wrote: |
CnfsdWhtGuy wrote: |
I am at the point where i am putting the head back on. is it normal to stretch your push rod tubes? |
Yes, but you have to stretch them (gently) BEFORE you put the head on. If these are loose, you will have a horrible oil leak. |
May also be a good idea to replace the push tube/rod seals, if you haven't already done so. _________________ ----------------------
Cars Currently Owned:
1970 Karmann Ghia Coupe
1973 Karmann Ghia Coupe - Project car for sale
1970 Karmann Ghia Convertible (Body off restoration)
Timing is everything |
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c21darrel Samba Member
Joined: January 22, 2009 Posts: 8211 Location: San Dimas
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asesapie Samba Member
Joined: March 07, 2005 Posts: 756 Location: Spokane, WA
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Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2015 12:01 pm Post subject: |
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I haven't ever heard of stretching them before use myself. If they are new they should fit. It may be that they are for a 36 horse and not a 1200-1600. |
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Disc Samba Member
Joined: September 24, 2009 Posts: 558 Location: Europe
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Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2015 12:45 pm Post subject: |
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This must be a joke! Four pages and only two pics of leaking carb and cracked head!?!?
Come on! Post few pics of your nice Karmann, man! Don't be selfish - share the beauty with us! _________________ The glory never gets old, just need new paint.
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CnfsdWhtGuy Samba Member
Joined: June 17, 2014 Posts: 54 Location: Washington
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Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2015 1:36 pm Post subject: |
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Disc wrote: |
This must be a joke! Four pages and only two pics of leaking carb and cracked head!?!?
Come on! Post few pics of your nice Karmann, man! Don't be selfish - share the beauty with us! |
Sorry. Here is the imgur link. I will update pictures on the site later.
http://imgur.com/a/LDL4z |
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CnfsdWhtGuy Samba Member
Joined: June 17, 2014 Posts: 54 Location: Washington
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Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2015 4:38 pm Post subject: |
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c21darrel wrote: |
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is it normal to stretch your push rod tubes? |
not only normal but necessary. You stretch them out, put in place and torque the head down to compress tubes. |
So even a new push rod tube you have to stretch? I would think they would come stretched... _________________ Just another white guy that has no idea what is going on... |
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c21darrel Samba Member
Joined: January 22, 2009 Posts: 8211 Location: San Dimas
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CnfsdWhtGuy Samba Member
Joined: June 17, 2014 Posts: 54 Location: Washington
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Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2015 5:00 pm Post subject: |
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Ok. The push rod tubes were short! There were for the 36hp? I think system and mine was longer. They were willing to switch them which is great. The motor is back in and after one wiring error when putting back together it is now running!!! In fact I was showing it off on Poker night and started for each person as they showed up. Started every time. No hiccups, no issues... Now I need a new battery and tires... Tires are huge. Anyone have an extra set they want to get rid of? I am willing to buy a new set once I save for a bit but I am dying to get her on the road. I will post up a video when I have a few.
Oh and a picked up a 66 body with a near perfect front right quarter panel!!! So I am going to cut that out in the near future. the rest of the car is up for grabs if anyone sees anything they need. I would like to get my money back but the parts will go cheap. Again I will post pics later. It also came with I would guess 72 doors, door windows, 72 roof, and trunk. And I have an early 70s Front right quarter panel I was going to use if I couldn't find the right one. Let me know if you are interested. _________________ Just another white guy that has no idea what is going on... |
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NWGhiaGuy Samba Member
Joined: March 16, 2005 Posts: 700 Location: Bellingham, WA
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Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2015 5:28 pm Post subject: |
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What part of Washington are you in? I have a set of chrome stock wheels w/ tires I'm ready to sell - $150 for the set. I'd be interested in trading parts if you want to get rid of your extras. |
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c21darrel Samba Member
Joined: January 22, 2009 Posts: 8211 Location: San Dimas
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asesapie Samba Member
Joined: March 07, 2005 Posts: 756 Location: Spokane, WA
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Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2015 9:02 am Post subject: |
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Where are the photos here?? Come on we need photos and video cause with out them it didn't happen.... |
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CnfsdWhtGuy Samba Member
Joined: June 17, 2014 Posts: 54 Location: Washington
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Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2015 3:34 pm Post subject: |
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ok so I dont have video of the Ghia running yet but I will. Here is the 66 body I picked up as well as the parts.
If you need anything of this just let me know! _________________ Just another white guy that has no idea what is going on... |
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asesapie Samba Member
Joined: March 07, 2005 Posts: 756 Location: Spokane, WA
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Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2015 3:13 pm Post subject: |
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That was some good fun towing that old Ghia body to your plaza. Thanks for the photos. Now we need a video of the motor running and some tires on that green booger then she'll be drivin'!
You still need to name her.... |
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John Moxon Samba Moderator
Joined: March 07, 2004 Posts: 13958 Location: Southampton U.K.
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jpjohns Samba Member
Joined: May 03, 2014 Posts: 882 Location: Harrisonburg, VA
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Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2015 10:46 am Post subject: |
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The Ghia or "THE" Ghia. Not sure that I could name mine but I sure do like turning up the radio in the basement and making it rain dollar bills on her. _________________ -Jared
"Scrapyards are for quitters" - Beetlenut (a Samba member) |
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John Moxon Samba Moderator
Joined: March 07, 2004 Posts: 13958 Location: Southampton U.K.
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