Retractable seat belts

malley56 · Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2015 3:29 pm Post subject: Retractable seat belts

I'm trying to figure out exactly what I need to order for 3 point retractable seat belts for my 71 vert. Lets just say I dont have any of the hardware but I do have the stock mount points in tact. Does anyone have suggestions on a good setup?

I have been looking at these...
http://www.karmannghia.com/viewDetail.asp?strMasterCat=&idproduct=8645

Do i need the mount cover?
http://www.karmannghia.com/viewDetail.asp?strMasterCat=&idproduct=5149

How about the Hook on the hinge covers?
http://www.karmannghia.com/viewDetail.asp?strMasterCat=&idproduct=2340

I called KGPR and got an apparent new staff member that did not seem to understand my questions.

Thanks in advance for your help!

didget69 · Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2015 4:46 pm Post subject: seatbelts

I plan to use these belts from a 'HUMVEE'... bought 2 sets.
Will make brackets as required. One or two suppliers are making these seatbelts for a number of parts resellers.

http://m.ebay.com/itm/141601420284?nav=SEARCH

The Dune Buggy forum on the Samba mentioned these belts.

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=554962&highlight=seat+belts

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mountainkowboy · Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2015 5:29 pm Post subject:

I also used the Humvee belts in mine. I had to make a bracket to offset them and make them level, but they work great and were cost effective.
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malley56 · Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2015 7:12 pm Post subject:

Thanks Bryan!

I am following your lead and buying a set of the HumVee belts as well. For the price its definitely worth a shot. I found my mounting bolts and Im sure I can make them work one way or the other.

oceanair · Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2015 7:37 pm Post subject:

I got the Humvee ones as well and then chucked them. If you have a Ghia and want to retain the 60s/70s look, the Humvee ones are cheap and look like they are from 1984. Utilitarian, yes -- style that reflects the Ghia, no.

Hnoroian · Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2015 8:38 pm Post subject:

O2COOLED · Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2015 10:33 pm Post subject:

There have been previous discussions on this. I also used the Humvee belts on my '69.

Check out this thread:

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=573800&highlight=humvee+belts
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NOVA Airhead · Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2015 6:21 am Post subject:

I have used these belts on several of my cars and have been happy with them. They look correct in the car and attach to the stock mounting points. I purchased the mounting hardware with it.

https://www.gotbelts.com/retractable-lap-shoulder-belts/m.products/81/view/30
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didget69 · Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2015 7:21 am Post subject:

... I'm not worried about originality.

It's just a car. Never got into the 'over-restored, better than it ever left any Factory' cars.

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malley56 · Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2015 9:03 am Post subject:

I'm hoping the HumVee belts will look OK in mine. Interior is pretty nice but it's just basic black. As little as I payed for them it won't be that big of a loss if I don't use them.

I'll try to remember to post pics when I'm done. Should be sometime next week.

swavananda · Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2015 11:04 am Post subject:

I also went with the gotbelts. And went with the 5'' stubby buckle because my non stock seats slide all the way back to the rear to fit my 6'3 frame. So no need for a long floppy buckle.....

I also mounted the base on the pivot point because it actually works better there on a vert, Because the pivot point on a vert is ridiculously low. Can't see how it would be less safe.

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NOVA Airhead · Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2015 6:19 am Post subject:

didget69 · Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2015 8:39 am Post subject:

ccihon · Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2015 10:01 am Post subject:

I'm sure offense was taken with that "just a car" thing - but I understand the guy's original intent there - while my car is all stock and I like originality as much as the next guy I used the Humvee retractable belts because it is one area where safety and utility trumps originality. If I were anywhere close to councours-correct I would have the original lobster claw belts in there, which lack much in convenience and safety.

Additionally, the Humvee belt quality and appearance is very much like the three-point retractables later used when safety standards demanded them. The more expensive equivalents sold as classic-VW-specific seemed to me to differ only in that they are available in colors and that some of the bits and latches had chrome or emblems on them, which didn't fit with the original look, to my eye. My original belts were very plain, very black, and very crispy.

"it's just a car" - granted a very unique and special classic car, much loved here, but in my opinion not nearly as safe as cars with anti-locks, airbags, etc, so the belts are an area where I can offset that shortcoming a little.

NOVA Airhead · Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2015 1:36 pm Post subject:

mountainkowboy · Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2015 2:32 pm Post subject:


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