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salerno50 Samba Member
Joined: September 16, 2006 Posts: 9
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Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2015 1:58 pm Post subject: Battery Mystery |
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Hi, folks. Question here. Last November I let my 78 Westy sit for a few weeks, then tried to start her. No dice. Tried to jump it but it wouldn't go. So I covered her up until last week, after the snow. I took the battery to the gas station and had it charged. Put the battery back in and Viola! Started. Now, however, two days later. Dead again.
BUT!!!!!! I hooked up my battery tender to the supposed dead battery and, after about five minutes, the battery tender says CHARGED AND MAINTAINING.
So...what the heck???
Maybe some of you kind peoples can school me here. Thanks again, in advance. |
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salerno50 Samba Member
Joined: September 16, 2006 Posts: 9
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Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2015 2:28 pm Post subject: Also |
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I should add that in my recent attempt to start it, there was NOTHING happening (no lights of any kind, no crank, no nothing). |
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MacLeod Willy Samba Member
Joined: February 18, 2014 Posts: 933 Location: Ontario Canada
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Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2015 2:37 pm Post subject: |
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Clean connections at the starter and ground strap first |
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TomWesty Samba Member
Joined: November 23, 2007 Posts: 3482 Location: Wyoming,USA
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Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2015 3:36 pm Post subject: |
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Also, probably time for a new battery. They don't live very long after a few complete discharges. _________________ If you haven't bled on them, you haven't worked on them.
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busdaddy Samba Member
Joined: February 12, 2004 Posts: 51153 Location: Surrey B.C. Canada, but thinking of Ukraine
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Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2015 4:01 pm Post subject: |
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Letting a dead battery sit all winter is not good for it, dead batteries freeze and warp the cell plates or in extreme cases split open. _________________ Rust NEVER sleeps and stock never goes out of style.
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raygreenwood Samba Member
Joined: November 24, 2008 Posts: 21520 Location: Oklahoma City
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Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2015 6:23 pm Post subject: |
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Sounds like a dead cell....or more than one. Probably calcium growth across a pair of plates. Ray |
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blackivory69 Samba Member
Joined: April 08, 2013 Posts: 309 Location: California
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Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2015 7:05 pm Post subject: |
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I just replaced one of my batteries for exact the same reason. Yes, you might have a dead cell in the battery. _________________ 1970 Double Cab. Stock engine (1600 SP)
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deronmoped Samba Member
Joined: November 18, 2006 Posts: 375 Location: San Diego
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Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2015 11:25 pm Post subject: |
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Did they test it at the gas station after they charged it?
The battery should be fully charged, that is, put it on a charger for a day. Then a load tester should be used to test it. Also, you want to make sure the levels are all good in each cell. |
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deronmoped Samba Member
Joined: November 18, 2006 Posts: 375 Location: San Diego
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Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2015 11:41 pm Post subject: |
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Oh, also, that battery tender is only good for what it says it's for, tending a fully charged battery. It's not designed to recharge a battery, well, maybe, if you left it on there for a month. |
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Mistersponge Samba Member
Joined: March 06, 2014 Posts: 20 Location: Syracuse, NY
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Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2015 11:45 am Post subject: |
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I've never had luck getting a battery tender to bring a battery back from the dead. However though, I have a few times used a jumper box to get the process started and us the battery tender to top it off. _________________ 1977 Westy |
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salerno50 Samba Member
Joined: September 16, 2006 Posts: 9
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Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2015 12:06 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah, they tested it at the gas station before handing it back to me. I brought it right home and it fired up. Then two days later, nothing. The only mystery is that the tender said "charged and maintaining" (green pulsing light). That leads me to believe I've got something else going on. But I'm going to try to get the batter tested and charged. I only have a tender, and no car at the moment to get the battery charged/tested. I'll report back.
Thanks everyone for your thoughts!!! |
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Wildthings Samba Member
Joined: March 13, 2005 Posts: 50352
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Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2015 1:55 pm Post subject: |
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You probably have a phantom load on your electrical system that is running your battery down and you will continue to have problems with a dead battery until you find and eliminate the draw.
You might as well figure that your battery is shot. Try and get it to work again will likely cause a lot of outgassing which will eat up the metal of your battery compartment and any battery that is under par will put extra load on the starter and charging system costing you that much more money tomorrow. Buy a new top of the line battery, find and repair your draw, and enjoy tooling around in your dependable bus. |
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Tcash Samba Member
Joined: July 20, 2011 Posts: 12844 Location: San Jose, California, USA
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Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2015 2:27 pm Post subject: |
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salerno50 wrote: |
The only mystery is that the tender said "charged and maintaining" (green pulsing light). That leads me to believe I've got something else going on. |
If the green light was pulsing and the red light was off. The battery is charged.
You are right to believe something else is going on.
MacLeod Willy wrote: |
Clean connections at the starter and ground strap first |
Time to clean the connections as posted.
Good luck
Tcash |
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