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Maddward Samba Member
Joined: July 18, 2010 Posts: 206 Location: Orange County, CA
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Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2015 6:54 am Post subject: Breather problems? |
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I just put the "new to me" 92x74 motor in my 67' bug. If I take it for some hot laps around town, shifting a few times at 6k and come home I have no problems. Did a 50 mile drive Sunday averaging 65 mph on the freeway(3500rpm) almost the entire drive and I have oil coming from behind the front pulley and flinging all over the place. I have a breather with 1/2" hose out of the generator tower but that's it. Is it time to add breathers to my valve covers? |
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awreed Samba Member
Joined: January 14, 2010 Posts: 1268 Location: Kirkland, WA
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Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2015 9:56 am Post subject: |
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Had the same problem. Maybe you are having excessive crankcase pressure problems, but I've found that aftermarket aluminum pulleys can and will sling oil like this. Try a sand seal or even putting a German steel pulley on it. |
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Maddward Samba Member
Joined: July 18, 2010 Posts: 206 Location: Orange County, CA
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Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2015 10:28 am Post subject: |
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I do have an aftermarket aluminum pulley. I'll see if I have a stock pulley laying around.
Are any aftermarket pulleys good to help solve this? I like having degree marks on the pulley. |
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Brian Samba Moderator
Joined: May 28, 2012 Posts: 8340 Location: Oceanside
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Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2015 11:58 am Post subject: |
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An aftermarket pulley with a degree ring is nice to have.
Do you have the breather going anywhere? It should be connected to at least one carb. The stock oil filler with proper tubing to the carb is needed. After that if there is still oil leaking out, I'd vent at least one valve cover. After that, I would suspect something else. _________________ Wash your hands
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Glenn Mr. 010
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Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2015 12:00 pm Post subject: |
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Maddward wrote: |
I do have an aftermarket aluminum pulley. I'll see if I have a stock pulley laying around.
Are any aftermarket pulleys good to help solve this? I like having degree marks on the pulley. |
Gene Berg pulleys are high quality and have a degree wheel.
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Maddward Samba Member
Joined: July 18, 2010 Posts: 206 Location: Orange County, CA
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Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2015 1:34 pm Post subject: |
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My breather is just a small K&N filter. I'll try a stock pulley first. Then breather to a carb if that doesn't solve it. That Berg pulley is nice but a little on the high $ side |
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Maddward Samba Member
Joined: July 18, 2010 Posts: 206 Location: Orange County, CA
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Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2015 11:11 am Post subject: |
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Fixed it! Empi breather box. Generator stand, 1/2 valve cover, and right carb all going to the box. That was an easy $28 fix. Thanks for the help |
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Eaallred Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2015 11:28 am Post subject: |
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Maddward wrote: |
Fixed it! Empi breather box. Generator stand, 1/2 valve cover, and right carb all going to the box. That was an easy $28 fix. Thanks for the help |
Glad to hear you didn't vent the 3/4 cover. _________________ Eric Allred
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bugguy1967 Samba Member
Joined: January 16, 2008 Posts: 4343 Location: Los Angeles, CA 90016
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Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2015 11:47 am Post subject: |
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The box by itself didn't do anything IMO. I think when you added the one to the filter top you created a bit of vacuum, which is always a good thing.
There are better solutions if you wanted to upgrade in the future. P/M me if you'd like to know. _________________ "A petrol engine can start readily, run smoothly and give every appearance of being in good order, without necessarily being in good tune." - Colin Campbell, "The Sportscar Engine" |
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Split 1 Samba Member
Joined: May 03, 2005 Posts: 764 Location: Adelaide. South australia
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Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2015 1:39 pm Post subject: |
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Eaallred wrote: |
Maddward wrote: |
Fixed it! Empi breather box. Generator stand, 1/2 valve cover, and right carb all going to the box. That was an easy $28 fix. Thanks for the help |
Glad to hear you didn't vent the 3/4 cover. |
Why not both sides?
Thanks |
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Hustlers67 Samba Member
Joined: September 21, 2011 Posts: 263 Location: Sydney, Australia
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Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2015 3:51 pm Post subject: |
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How did you vent the valve cover? |
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slalombuggy Samba Member
Joined: July 17, 2010 Posts: 9147 Location: Canada
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Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2015 4:22 pm Post subject: |
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At high rpm the 3/4 side valve cover will fill up with oil as it is pumped up the tubes by the crank and rods. After the rockerbox/valve cover is full it can push it up the breather tube and out the breather box, making a bigger mess or starving the engine of oil in extreme circumstances. If you don't have a fuel pump you can also vent that which will do more than venting the valve covers.
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Maddward Samba Member
Joined: July 18, 2010 Posts: 206 Location: Orange County, CA
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Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2015 6:26 am Post subject: |
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Yes I didn't do the 3/4 side due to the amount of oil that fills the valve cover.
I used the bulkhead style fittings that came with the kit. Pictured at the left
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vw moses Samba Member
Joined: April 17, 2012 Posts: 213 Location: independance,louisiana
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Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2016 8:02 pm Post subject: Re: Breather problems? |
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i got breather tubes to both valve covers that vent to a duel filtered breather behine the shroud-oil's never came out there.
there still white af. 3yrs
i also vent the gen.tower to both carbs. equally.
i did a jet change and no residue at the openings
i do have new rings
i've seen the video of oil filling valve cover,but it doesn't travel high!
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