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[email protected] Samba Member
Joined: June 02, 2011 Posts: 1593 Location: Louisville, ky
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Posted: Tue May 05, 2015 3:23 pm Post subject: Choose your route wisely |
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I was headed to Sevierville Tennessee for the Circle yer Wagons show. Google maps of course put me on the interstate for the 260 miles. I don't like interstates so I clicked the no highway option and it picked out a couple of nice routes. I took 27 down and 127 back. I was very disappointed at the lack of fellow Vdubers along that route. I expected most would have chosen the slower back roads and I should see an occasional VW at a gas station or greasy spoon getting gas. Not a one.
On the way back I ran across a stopped Vanagon just a few miles from Sevierville, I stopped to help. Not much I could do to help he said he had overheated and had to stop to let it cool down. So I stayed and chatted a few minutes. Told him about the beautiful ride I had on 27. 55 mph most of the way with an occasional 35 mph through town. I enjoyed the scenery through town so it was worth slowing to 35 to take it in.
He then tells me that he had been on I75 trying to keep up with traffic going over the mountains, we call them mountains, and it overheated. Now he can only go about 10 miles before it overheats again and he stops for 20 some odd minutes to let it cool. Sounds like a head gasket leaking exhaust gas into the water. He has friends at the bug show that should be able to patch him up and send him home. But he was also saying how he lives just off 27 and he now with perfect hindsight wishes he took the slower back road.
I guess that brings up the question. Why was I alone on those back roads, why was everyone on I75 trying to go 70 mph up those long steep hills? |
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my59 Samba Member
Joined: August 13, 2003 Posts: 3793 Location: connecting the dots
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Posted: Tue May 05, 2015 4:25 pm Post subject: |
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They didn't turn on the no highway option?
They all drive Raby camper specials?
Every one running Subi conversions?
Everyone was hot footing for the rare parts at the swap?
You were the smartest one at the show?
Pick your favorite. I favor the 'all a bunch of idiots' option but was trying to be polite _________________ my59: Well son, my grandfather died before I got to drive it, so does that answer your question?
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PK399 Samba Member
Joined: December 03, 2003 Posts: 188 Location: Gaspe Coast, Quebec, CANADA
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Posted: Tue May 05, 2015 7:26 pm Post subject: |
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Seems people nowadays want to go from point a to point b in the fast lane, follow the herd, and to hell with the scenery along the "old roads". |
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coad Samba Scapegoat
Joined: September 12, 2002 Posts: 7552
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Posted: Tue May 05, 2015 8:52 pm Post subject: |
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My personal rule of thumb is to only drive on roads that existed when the car I'm driving was built. |
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hitest Samba Member
Joined: September 30, 2008 Posts: 10296 Location: Prime Meridian, ID
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Posted: Tue May 05, 2015 9:08 pm Post subject: |
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Such problems never existed before GPS. Simply opening a map is a skill no longer taught.
My recent proof: laughing from the back seat after being fired as navigator for the drive to and from San Jose. The cost to the GPS-sworn driver: $20 bridge toll and an extra 15 minutes added to the trip home. _________________
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[email protected] Samba Member
Joined: June 02, 2011 Posts: 1593 Location: Louisville, ky
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Posted: Tue May 05, 2015 9:12 pm Post subject: |
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One more note: I often drive the non-highways on long road trips but jump on them to scoot effortlessly through a large city. Yes I miss some amazing sights by getting on the interstate, but I save a lot of wear and tear on my brakes, drivetrain and nerves. |
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kamesama980 Samba Member
Joined: June 22, 2014 Posts: 323 Location: Columbus, IN
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Posted: Wed May 06, 2015 8:04 am Post subject: |
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Depends on how long the trip is, where I'm going, when, and why.
Ie this weekend going to autocross, gotta be there by x time in the morning, I took the interstate. but yes, other times where time is less of the essence, I don't mind the slower roads. then again, the bug doesn't have issues with speed/load like the busses do.
I agree with GPS destroying people's ability to navigate without it. "How am I supposed to know which squiggly line is what/goes where?" I can't wait another 13-14 years for my daughter to be that age, I have enough trouble getting my wife to drive without the $%^& thing. "What if I get lost or miss the exit?" "You take the interstate for 200 miles, then it ends and you get on the other interstate...all along the way there are signs telling you what road you're on and where you're going!" _________________ -Russell
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Air-Cooled Head Samba Member
Joined: October 15, 2002 Posts: 4070 Location: Chicago Suburbs
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luvthemvws Samba Member
Joined: February 13, 2012 Posts: 117 Location: Middle of nowhere
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Posted: Thu May 07, 2015 7:06 pm Post subject: |
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You didn't see the air cooled vws because they were in their owners trailer being pulled by his American-made pickup. The VW gets unloaded at the show (or near to the show) so the owner can say he drove it there. They over-carb, over-cam, and over-compression the engine and then spend the day telling everyone how totally reliable their car is.
No, I'm not bitter... |
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KTPhil Samba Member
Joined: April 06, 2006 Posts: 34009 Location: Conejo Valley, CA
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Posted: Thu May 07, 2015 10:14 pm Post subject: |
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If there is any doubt about the reliability of ones' ride, then taking the interstates, where others will see and help you in case of trouble, might be a wise choice. |
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[email protected] Samba Member
Joined: June 02, 2011 Posts: 1593 Location: Louisville, ky
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Posted: Fri May 08, 2015 12:08 am Post subject: |
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KTPhil wrote: |
If there is any doubt about the reliability of ones' ride, then taking the interstates, where others will see and help you in case of trouble, might be a wise choice. |
I think your much more likely to have someone stop and help along a back road than you are an interstate, it is hard for me to judge as I have never broken down on an interstate. I have broken down on back roads. Maybe one of you vanagon drivers with lots of experience breaking down can give us some insight.
That does bring up another point along those same lines. You are much more likely to have cell service along the interstate, so the AAA card is actually usable along an interstate. |
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rgdedge Samba Member
Joined: October 17, 2006 Posts: 862 Location: Seymour, TN
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Posted: Fri May 08, 2015 12:08 pm Post subject: |
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luvthemvws wrote: |
You didn't see the air cooled vws because they were in their owners trailer being pulled by his American-made pickup. The VW gets unloaded at the show (or near to the show) so the owner can say he drove it there. They over-carb, over-cam, and over-compression the engine and then spend the day telling everyone how totally reliable their car is.
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There were a lot of trailer queens there. Driving them is the fun part. If I cant drive it, I don't want it.
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Mike Fisher Samba Member
Joined: January 30, 2006 Posts: 17970 Location: Eugene, OR
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Posted: Fri May 08, 2015 6:17 pm Post subject: |
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We usually caravan to the Bug Run on Interstate 5 at 65mph with the Oregon Bus Club. We had to leave a bus at the Rest Area last year & come back after the Show with a tow dolly. _________________ https://imgur.com/user/FisherSquareback/posts
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e&m_ghia Samba Member
Joined: April 04, 2011 Posts: 418 Location: NoVA
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Posted: Fri May 08, 2015 7:50 pm Post subject: |
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rgdedge wrote: |
There were a lot of trailer queens there. Driving them is the fun part. If I cant drive it, I don't want it.
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Lots of trailer queens at a VW show...? We sometimes see a couple, but one of the good things about VWs is the fact that you drive them... (We mostly go to all-make shows around here. If there's a '57 chevy with high-gloss paint & lots of chrome, it was probably trailered in... There are lots of trailers where you see lots of those kinds of cars...)
We make it a point, where we can, to take the back roads with our VW - even though we have no problem keeping up with traffic. It's just not a pleasant drive with a crowd of 18-wheelers. Much better on the back roads. So, if we're visiting relatives by going around the Beltway (I495), in bad weather - we're going by Subaru. But when it's nice... the Ghia gets a pleasant trip on the back roads & GW Parkway...
With a few exceptions, we don't even take our Ghia to places that can only really be got-to by interstate... |
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photogdave Samba Member
Joined: April 05, 2004 Posts: 3052 Location: Vancouver Island, B.C.
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awreed Samba Member
Joined: January 14, 2010 Posts: 1268 Location: Kirkland, WA
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Posted: Fri May 22, 2015 10:21 pm Post subject: |
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I tried and failed to keep up with the procession of VWs in my 69 Bay on I-5 many years ago. The whole 25 mile trip I was wondering how in the hell these guys are doing 75 or 80. Freeway flier trannys? Built motors? Was I the only one with a stock drivetrain? I'll never drive to another show/meet like that. My Bay is happy at 55mph, but struggles mightily at 56. |
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joe56vw Samba Member
Joined: June 24, 2004 Posts: 3202 Location: Olympia wa
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Posted: Sat May 23, 2015 12:14 pm Post subject: |
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awreed wrote: |
I tried and failed to keep up with the procession of VWs in my 69 Bay on I-5 many years ago. The whole 25 mile trip I was wondering how in the hell these guys are doing 75 or 80. Freeway flier trannys? Built motors? Was I the only one with a stock drivetrain? I'll never drive to another show/meet like that. My Bay is happy at 55mph, but struggles mightily at 56. |
then your bus has some serious issues if that's all it will do
any aircooled vw made after '60-ish should be able to cruise at 60-65mph on the freeway with a stock drive train
the exception of course is going up hills or heavily loaded down
I have had split buses from the early '60 with smaller engines and lower gear ratios then your bay probably has that could do 60mph without any issues _________________ '60 15 window walkthrough
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awreed Samba Member
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Posted: Sat May 23, 2015 7:08 pm Post subject: |
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joe56vw wrote: |
awreed wrote: |
I tried and failed to keep up with the procession of VWs in my 69 Bay on I-5 many years ago. The whole 25 mile trip I was wondering how in the hell these guys are doing 75 or 80. Freeway flier trannys? Built motors? Was I the only one with a stock drivetrain? I'll never drive to another show/meet like that. My Bay is happy at 55mph, but struggles mightily at 56. |
then your bus has some serious issues if that's all it will do
any aircooled vw made after '60-ish should be able to cruise at 60-65mph on the freeway with a stock drive train
the exception of course is going up hills or heavily loaded down
I have had split buses from the early '60 with smaller engines and lower gear ratios then your bay probably has that could do 60mph without any issues |
I agree.
It would do 60/65, but it wasn't happy. I've since pulled that motor and stripped it all the way down already. All the lifter bores were over spec, so I started over with another case... and basically everything else. I reused nothing and spared absolutely no expense. Here's the new motor mated to a rebuilt tranny:
2007cc with CB crank trigger. 44 webers. Got it tuned and balanced just perfectly a couple months ago and broke the motor in. When I took it out for a ride it started leaking fairly heavily from the bell housing. Either main seal, cam plug, or blew an oil galley plug. Still gotta pull the motor again to find out and fix it.
But rest assured that once I get my Bay back on the road she'll be a sleeper and will surprise a few. |
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