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Jefropi Samba Member
Joined: April 01, 2015 Posts: 36 Location: California
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Posted: Tue May 26, 2015 11:31 am Post subject: "HELP" SMOKING engine |
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Hello,
I am new tu VWs. I have a 1970 standard I just put in a new tranny in my car and had to change the pressure plate to match. Runs ok and drives ok. Here is my issue. After driving it to work this morning i noticed that smoke was coming from the engine compartment. I got to work and opened the lid. I seen that there was alot of smoke coming from behind of the engine :Bell housing". So my question is where might the smoke be coming from? Could it be an issue with the tranny or clutch? My clutch cable is a little short. Could that cause an issue? Any help would be appreciated. |
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Jefropi Samba Member
Joined: April 01, 2015 Posts: 36 Location: California
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Posted: Tue May 26, 2015 9:25 pm Post subject: |
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So after some looking it seems like the smoke is from oil coming out of both valve covers and dripping on the heater box. Now my question is I think my car is running hot and milted or broke the gasket in the covers. Does this sound like it could be what is causing the leeks? Thanks. |
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awreed Samba Member
Joined: January 14, 2010 Posts: 1268 Location: Kirkland, WA
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Posted: Tue May 26, 2015 9:37 pm Post subject: |
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Wait, wait ,wait. Your clutch cable is a little short? Is your clutch slipping? You're gonna go through quite a few clutches like that. You should have 3/4" to 1" of free play in the pedal. might wanna check that and get the right clutch.
As far as oil leaking from the valve covers, that isn't a sign of overheating. Rather, it's a sign that you need new valve cover gaskets. Throw away those crappy rubber or composite gaskets and get the cork ones.
Are you using bolt on EMPI valve covers? I bought those once and they ALWAYS leaked on me. Now I only use the stock valve covers with the bails. Never had a leak and I never buy new gaskets. |
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Danwvw Samba Member
Joined: July 31, 2012 Posts: 8892 Location: Oregon Coast
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Posted: Tue May 26, 2015 10:29 pm Post subject: |
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2X on "awreed" post and make sure you've put the right clutch in your car they changed between 70-71. If you go with a 71 trans then your going to need a different clutch. http://vwparts.aircooled.net/200mm-Kennedy-Engineering-Racing-Pressure-Plates-p/kep-200mm.htm
As far as oil dripping on your heater boxes it is a hazard that happens sooner or later to all of us. When it happens to me I clean them out with a non flammable brake cleaner or some spray can stuff. Get the cheapest you can find and used a couple or even 3 or four cans of the stuff get all that oil out of your heaters so it does not smell bad inside the car when the heaters are turned on. Don't turn on the heaters until it's baked out either. _________________ 1960 Beetle And 1679cc DP W-100 & Dual Zeniths! |
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Jefropi Samba Member
Joined: April 01, 2015 Posts: 36 Location: California
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Posted: Wed May 27, 2015 7:16 pm Post subject: |
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The newer tranny has the longer arm thing with this seems like the cable is short. I can get the nut on but barely. I was thinking that the clutch as not releasing all the way causing the smoke. But now i see its from the covers. Here is the issue tho. It never leaked till i removed the engine and out it back in. I did drive it around with the with the motor tins off. I read that it could cause it to overheat and leaking gaskets were a symptom. |
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Cusser Samba Member
Joined: October 02, 2006 Posts: 31379 Location: Hot Arizona
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Posted: Wed May 27, 2015 7:54 pm Post subject: |
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Jefropi wrote: |
Here is the issue tho. It never leaked till i removed the engine and out it back in. I did drive it around with the with the motor tins off. I read that it could cause it to overheat and leaking gaskets were a symptom. |
You drove it around with the "motor tins" off ????? What made you think that was a good idea ??? You have this great forum here and you never bothered to post such a silly query ??? _________________ 1970 VW (owned since 1972) and 1971 VW Convertible (owned since 1976), second owner of each. The '71 now has the 1835 engine, swapped from the '70. Second owner of each. 1988 Mazda B2200 truck, 1998 Frontier, 2014 Yukon, 2004 Frontier King Cab. All manual transmission except for the Yukon. http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=335294 http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=335297 |
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sjbartnik Samba Member
Joined: September 01, 2011 Posts: 5998 Location: Brooklyn
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Posted: Wed May 27, 2015 7:57 pm Post subject: |
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Jefropi wrote: |
I did drive it around with the with the motor tins off. |
_________________ 1965 Volkswagen 1500 Variant S
2000 Kawasaki W650 |
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Jefropi Samba Member
Joined: April 01, 2015 Posts: 36 Location: California
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Posted: Wed May 27, 2015 8:04 pm Post subject: |
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I was not thinking... So did i mess up the motor? It still runs good. |
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sjbartnik Samba Member
Joined: September 01, 2011 Posts: 5998 Location: Brooklyn
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Posted: Wed May 27, 2015 8:15 pm Post subject: |
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Jefropi wrote: |
I was not thinking... So did i mess up the motor? It still runs good. |
I don't know. Fix your valve cover gasket oil leak, get back to us with valve lash numbers and compression numbers and let's see. _________________ 1965 Volkswagen 1500 Variant S
2000 Kawasaki W650 |
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Bob Brugge Samba Member
Joined: April 09, 2015 Posts: 721 Location: Missoula, MT
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Posted: Fri May 29, 2015 2:34 pm Post subject: |
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sjbartnik wrote: |
Jefropi wrote: |
I did drive it around with the with the motor tins off. |
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LMAO!!! Again!! |
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Jefropi Samba Member
Joined: April 01, 2015 Posts: 36 Location: California
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Posted: Sun May 31, 2015 7:47 pm Post subject: |
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Hay cmon im a new to vws had no idea they were for cooling. Thought it was for keeping road grime out of engine compartment. It was just a test drive. |
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Air-Cooled Head Samba Member
Joined: October 15, 2002 Posts: 4070 Location: Chicago Suburbs
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Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2015 9:20 am Post subject: |
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Jefropi wrote: |
Hay cmon im a new to vws had no idea they were for cooling. Thought it was for keeping road grime out of engine compartment. It was just a test drive. |
Jefropi wrote: |
Hay cmon im a new to vws had no idea they were for cooling. Thought it was for keeping road grime out of engine compartment. It was just a test drive. |
Don't take it too seriously. The Samba is a rough room to work.
Lots of smart people here, who are often good-natured smart asses too.
I doubt you ruined your motor with a test drive. As long as it wasn't a 2 hour test drive, at speeds approaching 90.
DO get a Bentley manual for your car.
DON'T be afraid to ask. There's even a Stupid Question thread, for when you need to ask "What are the engines tins for?"
I went back and read your older posts. Right now, it seems you're stumbling around, and I fear you may become frustrated and quit. You need to make a few VW friends, which shouldn't be too hard since you live in Cali. With a little help from your friends, you'll begin to really enjoy your VW.
Good Luck! _________________ Everything known to man has been written.
Readers are Leaders! |
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TheAmazingDave Samba Member
Joined: April 11, 2013 Posts: 788 Location: San Jose, CA
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Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2015 9:59 am Post subject: |
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Where in Cali are you? If you're in the SF South Bay, I'd be happy to take a look. I'm by no means an ACVW expert, but I know my way around and have been working on cars for a long while now. _________________ Just call me Big D. (formerly xBigDx408x)
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Jefropi Samba Member
Joined: April 01, 2015 Posts: 36 Location: California
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Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2015 6:27 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks I live in Auburn north of Sacramento. The car does not smoke that much anymore but does run very hot. Cant touch the dipstick. |
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Jefropi Samba Member
Joined: April 01, 2015 Posts: 36 Location: California
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Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2015 6:30 pm Post subject: |
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My nex question is how do i tell if the fan vent is open on the motor? When i took the motor out I forgot to check this. Is there an easy way to find out? |
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