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johnnypan Samba Member
Joined: October 24, 2007 Posts: 7431 Location: sackamenna
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Posted: Tue May 26, 2015 6:32 pm Post subject: Some real hackery |
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Freind of mine stops by the house 4 years ago,says he's broke and needs his beetle running..I told him to pull his motor and I'd fix him up for free,provided he didnt get picky over parts,most of the stuff would come from the stash...when I measured it out the case was cut .080 over,crank .040 under...the case was so heat warped you could stick a 5/16th washer in the parting line at the top..he scraped up enough for a set of mains,rods cam bearings and rings,I threw in the gasket set and built it..Above shots are from today about 30k later,one head wont hold a timesert any more so he dropped it over with a used head he bought at BOR..What never ceases to amaze me is how long a junker can run if you assemble it correctly,I would have scrapped his case if he wasnt broke..Ill put the head on and i bet he'll go another 4 years..he drives the damn thing like it owes him money too.. |
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Eisenhauer01 Samba Member
Joined: November 08, 2008 Posts: 62 Location: Walkertown, NC
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Raceace24 Samba Member
Joined: November 15, 2013 Posts: 202 Location: PA.
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Posted: Thu May 28, 2015 6:21 am Post subject: |
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You think that's bad?
My first Beetle had a heater box replaced with pieces of steel pipe.
The PO tapped the exhaust outlet port in the head, threaded a 1.25" long, 1.25" OD steel pipe into it, added a 90 degree elbow, another 5" piece of pipe, another 90 degree elbow, and another pipe that went back to the muffler ! The only reason it failed was because he couldn't get enough threads into the port to securely hold it.
I'm not even sure why he did it, because the studs on the head were in good shape! Must have been a plumber or something! _________________ ~ No matter where you go......there you are ~
Michael E ~ Raceace24 |
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enjoyther1de Samba Member
Joined: December 19, 2010 Posts: 1279 Location: chino,ca
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Posted: Thu May 28, 2015 8:54 am Post subject: |
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F$&@n rad _________________ HBB took me to BBV. |
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Mr.Duncan Samba Member
Joined: May 12, 2012 Posts: 3542 Location: Houston, TX
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Posted: Thu May 28, 2015 12:26 pm Post subject: |
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Damn.
I'd say its time for a new case lol
How was the oil pressure when it was on its last legs? _________________ (Owner) www.vintagecarleds.com
Red 1971 Squareback Thread
Red 1966 Beetle Thread
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1966 Ghia (sold)
1971 Blue Super Beetle (sold)
1966 Java Green Std Beetle (sold)
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iowegian Samba Curmudgeon
Joined: February 16, 2005 Posts: 9829 Location: Somewhere between Dubuque and Keokuk
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Posted: Thu May 28, 2015 2:27 pm Post subject: |
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Mr.Duncan wrote: |
Damn.
I'd say its time for a new case lol
How was the oil pressure when it was on its last legs? |
What do you want to bet the used head he is going to use has a big old crack in it too? |
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hitest Samba Member
Joined: September 30, 2008 Posts: 10296 Location: Prime Meridian, ID
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Posted: Thu May 28, 2015 2:45 pm Post subject: |
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I'm even surprised you're using the wife's GOOD grocery sacks in the ports. _________________
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I wonder what the nut looks like.
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enjoyther1de Samba Member
Joined: December 19, 2010 Posts: 1279 Location: chino,ca
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Posted: Fri May 29, 2015 1:07 pm Post subject: |
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Hey Jonny, I think I need my motor gone through. _________________ HBB took me to BBV. |
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johnnypan Samba Member
Joined: October 24, 2007 Posts: 7431 Location: sackamenna
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Posted: Sun May 31, 2015 12:12 pm Post subject: |
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preparation for a fixin,no 'spreading shit on the garage floor' crap for me,no sir..none of that "get your grandma to help you lift the engine" either...nope,set up proper so a man can work in a standing comfortable position.
My friend supplied the head,he hustled it at BOR,twenty bucks..as any smart purchaser uf used heads,versed in the "johnnypan method" of used head procurement, he chose an UNCRACKED head,with tight wiggle tested guides...a couple of small dings in one combustion chamber which I fixed by hand since flycutting doesnt work on a dished surface.
reused the rockers I installed 4 years ago..wavy washers and adjster screws still serviceable..spritzed then with brake clean,ready to install.
homeboy also found some fresh pushrod tubes and seals..he didnt steal them either,onna count they didnt have ass cheese on them...fat Dave is know for sticking purloined parts in his ass..he once stuck a bay bus wing window assembly complete in his ass at picknpull..yep,I saw it,and its something Id like to forget. |
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johnnypan Samba Member
Joined: October 24, 2007 Posts: 7431 Location: sackamenna
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Posted: Sun May 31, 2015 12:24 pm Post subject: |
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jugs and slugs...crosshatch gone during the re ring four years ago..no glazing though,cleaned the barrel ridges,good to go..
Old head..a virgin VW head form my stash..I told him not to use platinum spark plugs but he did anyway causing the pits you see..he was lucky,look at the unpittted side exhaust valve,she was a fixin to be sucked..
Ancient Snapon 0 to 50 analog torque wrench,dont leave home without it..
with the old virgin head i used rocker stand shims to gain geometry,with thr flycut replacement i took then out and hit the mark.. |
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johnnypan Samba Member
Joined: October 24, 2007 Posts: 7431 Location: sackamenna
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Posted: Sun May 31, 2015 12:29 pm Post subject: |
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I get in the zone when Im assembling,I dont like stopping and messing with the cameraphone thingy..nope,Gotta go...here's finished product,another 'chuck and duck' bro price special from the Panwerks,amateur volkswagen engine shop..(yup,you gotta have old school performance engine forum props to rock a pro status,30 years of diesel engine experience aint worth shit to the real lawmmower/Vw engine pros..) |
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johnnypan Samba Member
Joined: October 24, 2007 Posts: 7431 Location: sackamenna
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Posted: Sun May 31, 2015 12:34 pm Post subject: |
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Oh,total time from start to finish 2 hours,messing with the camera and no firng up the compressor on Sunday morning hurt my time.. |
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MagmaJctAz Samba Member
Joined: November 26, 2011 Posts: 289 Location: Mesa, AZ
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Posted: Sun May 31, 2015 1:19 pm Post subject: |
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How does platinum plugs cause that pitting? Did it break in there? Detonation?
Regards,
Mike _________________ 1974 Super Beetle. Owned since 1995. Daily Driver. Turned over odometer twice!
1971 Fastback. Check out my Fastback resurrection thread!
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=627711&highlight= |
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johnnypan Samba Member
Joined: October 24, 2007 Posts: 7431 Location: sackamenna
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Posted: Sun May 31, 2015 1:23 pm Post subject: |
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the electrode snaps off inside the porcelain..dont ask me why.. |
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iowegian Samba Curmudgeon
Joined: February 16, 2005 Posts: 9829 Location: Somewhere between Dubuque and Keokuk
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Posted: Sun May 31, 2015 7:47 pm Post subject: |
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johnnypan wrote: |
Oh,total time from start to finish 2 hours,messing with the camera and no firng up the compressor on Sunday morning hurt my time.. |
Good job, JohnnyPan. |
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EverettB Administrator
Joined: April 11, 2000 Posts: 69813 Location: Phoenix Metro
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Mr.Duncan Samba Member
Joined: May 12, 2012 Posts: 3542 Location: Houston, TX
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Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2015 11:05 am Post subject: |
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johnnypan wrote: |
the electrode snaps off inside the porcelain..dont ask me why.. |
So it ends up just bouncing around? Hammering the crap out of the head?
Weird. _________________ (Owner) www.vintagecarleds.com
Red 1971 Squareback Thread
Red 1966 Beetle Thread
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1971 Green Super Beetle (sold)
1966 Ghia (sold)
1971 Blue Super Beetle (sold)
1966 Java Green Std Beetle (sold)
1971 Red Squareback (sold)
1966 Red Beetle |
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pb_foots Samba Member
Joined: April 15, 2010 Posts: 1089 Location: Ben Lomond, CA
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Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2015 2:15 pm Post subject: |
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That is weird. I don't use them on my bug, but the LT1 in my Chevy has had platinum ACDelcos for 19 years and 180K miles, no issues.
It sure as hell isn't that high compression in a VW motor! I'd be interested to learn more about this.
Regardless, good for you Johnny for helping a friend. That comes back around. Usually to bite you in the rear, but still.... |
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talljordan Samba Member
Joined: January 10, 2012 Posts: 964 Location: San Francisco, CA
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Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2015 2:47 pm Post subject: |
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The platinum thing sure is weird. If I had to guess I would say that since we are aircooled our heating and cooling of the engine curves are different, maybe the temperature differences cause accelerated wear on the plug, whereas watercooled engines hold a more steady temp. But that's a shot in the dark, total guess. _________________ 1972 Super Beetle, Parked until adequate restoration funding is acquired in restoration!
Wanted: Male computer diagnostic plug end |
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johnnypan Samba Member
Joined: October 24, 2007 Posts: 7431 Location: sackamenna
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Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2015 9:20 pm Post subject: |
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Thats a hunch on the platinum plugs,Ive noticed it on two engines,chunks of electrode missing and dings on the head..
thanks for the props pb,I dont care to build engines for pocket money anymore,vw folks are way too finicky and way too cheap..nope,all I'll do is free stuff for the brothers..that engine is a testament to the durability of vw design,for all rights that case should be a boat anchor..along with the PC's..his crank was good but on the last cut,the cam was starting to get a little wavy four years ago..yet it runs and runs.. |
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